From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.133]:63956 "EHLO mout.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935701AbcKXJkT (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Nov 2016 04:40:19 -0500 From: Arnd Bergmann Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 10:38:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2648926.soV2DX4tAK@wuerfel> In-Reply-To: <20161124185322.1e2a492c@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> References: <20161123205338.GA12050@angband.pl> <20161124073639.GA12728@kroah.com> <20161124185322.1e2a492c@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kbuild-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Nicholas Piggin Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Ingo Molnar , Al Viro , Adam Borowski , Michal Marek , Philip Muller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Peter Zijlstra , linux-arch , linux-kbuild , Russell King On Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:53:22 PM CET Nicholas Piggin wrote: > > > > > Google tells me > > > Linus is not a neutral bystander on the topic of symbol versioning, so I'm > > > bracing for a robust response (actually I don't much care either way, I'm > > > happy to put a couple of bandaids on it and keep it going) > > > > There are tools that people are working on to make it more obvious where > > API breaks happen by looking at the .o debug data instead of our crazy > > current system (which is really better than nothing), perhaps we should > > start using them instead? > > > > See here for more details about this: > > https://kernel-recipes.org/en/2016/talks/would-an-abi-changes-visualization-tool-be-useful-to-linux-kernel-maintenance/ > > Hmm. I guess it's basically similar to modversions, so has downsides of not > detecting a semantic change unless it changes the type. But still, if we could > replace our custom code with a tool like this for modversions functionality, > that alone would be a massive improvement. But requiring debug info might be > a bit of a show stopper. I also don't know if that would handle asm functions. It's certainly not an option for v4.9 at this point. There is also no realistic way we can get a correct asm/asm-prototypes.h for all the other architectures in place. At the moment, powerpc is the only one that actually works with modversions. We can either make CONFIG_MODVERSIONS a per-architecture opt-in and let only the ones that have the header file select that, or revert all of Al's original patches that moved the exports. Arnd