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From: "Ricardo B. Marlière" <rbm@suse.com>
To: "Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Ricardo B. Marlière" <rbm@suse.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nsc@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>, <Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com>,
	<ben.copeland@linaro.org>, <kernelci@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] selftests: Preserve subtarget failures in all/install
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 12:53:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHTULEYO8FZN.2ED1TKXOSFJ1Y@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b80e905d-67bf-4c52-9b61-e52f3acc5b35@linuxfoundation.org>

On Wed Apr 15, 2026 at 12:52 PM -03, Shuah Khan wrote:
> On 4/15/26 09:42, Ricardo B. Marlière wrote:
>> On Wed Apr 15, 2026 at 12:40 PM -03, Shuah Khan wrote:
>>> On 4/15/26 07:58, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 03:29:20PM -0300, Ricardo B. Marlière wrote:
>>>>> Track failures explicitly in the top-level selftests all/install loops.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current code multiplies `ret` by each sub-make exit status. For
>>>>> example, with `TARGETS=net`, the implicit `net/lib` dependency runs after
>>>>> `net`, so a failed `net` build can be followed by a successful `net/lib`
>>>>> build and reset the final result to success.
>>>>>
>>>>> Set `ret` to 1 on any non-zero sub-make exit code and keep it sticky, so
>>>>> the top-level make returns failure when any selected selftest target
>>>>> fails.
>>>>
>>>> This patch, which is now in mainline as 7e47389142b8, is breaking a
>>>> bunch of CI systems - at least KernelCI, our Arm internal CI and my
>>>> personal stuff.  It causes the equivalent of FORCE_TARGETS behaviour in
>>>> the top level Makefile, the prior behaviour where the exit status of the
>>>> top level Makefile ignores failures from individual directories is
>>>> desirable since by default we try to build almost all the selftests but
>>>> between quality issues and build time dependencies it's very common for
>>>> at least one of them to fail.  With this commit unless the user has
>>>> configured a more restricted set of selftests it would be surprising if
>>>> we manage to get a successful build and install.
>>>>
>>>> As well as being a poor default due to the very high likelyhood of build
>>>> failures this also has the undesirable effect of causing a build failure
>>>> in one selftest to cause the whole install target to fail, meaning that
>>>> the build failure is escallated to a complete lost of coverge for all
>>>> selftests in common CI usage.
>>>>
>>>> This wasn't showing up in my -next build tests since I set FORCE_TARGETS
>>>> and explicitly choose a restricted set of kselftests which actually
>>>> build with my system and configuration.  It was less obvious than it
>>>> should have been with the other systems since they did not expect there
>>>> to be a complete failure to generate a kselftest tarball and variously
>>>> masked the error or reported it in a manner that looked like an
>>>> infrastructure issue.
>>>
>>> I didn't see it when I did test on linux-next and my repo. I did install
>>> to catch problems.
>>>
>>> Sorry for not catching this. We can drop this patch.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be really nice to get to the point where we can reasonably do
>>>> this but we're simply not there at the current time.  At the moment if
>>>> people want to see build failures reported at the top level that really
>>>> needs to be opt in, we have FORCE_TARGETS for that.
>>>
>>> Good point - I will go look and see if we document this in kselftest doc
>>> and add it.
>> 
>> It's not documented. It would have solved my issue, sorry for
>> overlooking this!
>
> Ricardo, Would you like to send me doc patch for this?

Sure, thanks!

>
> thanks,
> -- Shuah


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-15 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-20 18:29 [PATCH 0/6] selftests: run_kselftest.sh cleanup and fixes Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 1/6] selftests/run_kselftest.sh: Remove unused $ROOT Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 2/6] selftests/run_kselftest.sh: Add missing quotes Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 3/6] selftests/run_kselftest.sh: Resolve BASE_DIR with pwd -P Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 4/6] selftests/run_kselftest.sh: Allow choosing per-test log directory Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 5/6] selftests: Preserve subtarget failures in all/install Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-04-15 13:58   ` Mark Brown
2026-04-15 15:40     ` Shuah Khan
2026-04-15 15:42       ` Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-04-15 15:52         ` Shuah Khan
2026-04-15 15:53           ` Ricardo B. Marlière [this message]
2026-04-15 16:25       ` Mark Brown
2026-04-15 16:39         ` Shuah Khan
2026-03-20 18:29 ` [PATCH 6/6] kbuild: remove kselftest output in mrproper Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-04-10 19:19   ` Shuah Khan
2026-04-11 12:49     ` Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-04-13 15:58       ` Shuah Khan
2026-04-13 16:22         ` Ricardo B. Marlière
2026-03-31 22:43 ` [PATCH 0/6] selftests: run_kselftest.sh cleanup and fixes Shuah Khan
2026-04-01 11:45   ` Ricardo B. Marlière

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