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From: Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Overly aggressive .gitignore file?
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 05:45:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKTncHqLwgbZbRVl@bergen.fjasle.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiJHMje8cpiTajqrLrM23wZK0SWetuK1Bd67c0OGM_BzQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue 04 Jul 2023 12:49:01 GMT, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So this keeps happening to me - I go to apply a patch I just
> downloaded with 'b4', and I do my regular
> 
>      git am -s --whitespace 2023<tab>
> 
> and the dang thing doesn't autocomplete.,
> 
> The reason it doesn't auto-complete ends up being that my kernel tree
> contains some other random stale mbx file from the _previous_ time I
> did that, because they effectively get hidden from "git status" etc by
> our .gitignore file.
> 
> So then those stale files end up staying around much too long and not
> showing up on my radar even though they are just old garbage by the
> time I have actually applied them.
> 
> And I always use auto-complete, because those filenames that 'b4'
> generate are ridiculously long (for good reason).
> 
> And the auto-complete always fails, because b4 just uses a common
> prefix pattern too (again, for a perfectly good reason - I'm not
> complaining about b4 here).
> 
> This has been a slight annoyance for a while, but the last time it
> happened just a moment ago when I applied David Howells' afs patch
> (commit 03275585cabd: "afs: Fix accidental truncation when storing
> data" - not that the particular commit matters, I'm just pointing out
> how it just happened _again_).
> 
> So I'm really inclined to just revert the commit that added this
> pattern: 534066a983df (".gitignore: ignore *.cover and *.mbx"). It's
> actively detrimental to my workflow.
> 
> I'm not sure why that pattern was added, though. These are not
> auto-generated files from our build.  So before I go off and revert
> it, let's ask the people mentioned in that commit.
> 
> I *suspect* the thing that triggered this wasn't that people actually
> wanted to ignore these files, but that it was related to the misguided
> "let's use .gitignore to build source packages" project.
> 
> But at least for me, it's a real problem when .gitignore contains
> other files than the ones we actually generate.
> 
> The only one that actually commonly affects me is the *.mbx file,
> although I could certainly see the same being true of the *.cover
> thing.
> 
> And there might certainly be other patterns like this that I just
> don't react to, because they don't have the same detrimental effects
> on how I work.
> 
> Comments?
> 
>                Linus

Thanks for sharing some details of your concrete workflow.  I think, 
having this in mind, it is quite a fair point to criticise the handling 
(or ignoring, respectively) of files that are are not generated or used 
during kernel builds.  But in general, I don't find it that easy to 
draw the line; should we also remove

   *.kdev4
   *.orig
   *.patch
   *~
   \#*#
   patches
   series

from .gitignore?   I don't think so, even though they (partially) fall 
into the same category.

From my point of view, this is a decision of personal preference.
I do like the ignoring of *.mbx and *.cover, as I tend to have those 
files around for some time by intention.  But a revert would not cause 
any trouble to me and optimisation of your workflow is magnitudes more 
important, so I am perfectly fine with it, if you want to have the 
commit reverted.

Kind regards,
Nicolas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-05  3:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-04 19:49 Overly aggressive .gitignore file? Linus Torvalds
2023-07-04 21:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-07-04 21:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-04 21:34     ` Willy Tarreau
2023-07-04 21:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-04 21:56         ` Willy Tarreau
2023-07-04 22:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-04 22:27             ` Willy Tarreau
2023-07-05  0:41               ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-05 13:51                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-07-07 18:51                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-07-07 19:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-05  8:31       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2023-07-05  1:59 ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-07-05 15:34   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-05 16:28     ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-07-05  3:45 ` Nicolas Schier [this message]
2023-07-05  5:04   ` Masahiro Yamada

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