From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [74.104.188.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348A7EC3 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 00:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=74.104.188.4 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710202568; cv=none; b=T2RmNtOc7k4yaObBV7GaA197DXJanx+2/p9Z+mzprtbAHksU41tev10LYy5tLW4uCn572a8Ssz0KXi/Otyr1laOl4ra/PiKZbrjw6od39puE2iZa6eOsW21G8CdIRWWHgVrLTBSdibaX4FepEJe9HTx3sKS+wDBB27R1AcGMWiQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710202568; c=relaxed/simple; bh=g2UGS1Ye/6i+Znz+JBxp0ASHTOwQzqFQwG0+8M3NqC8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=BgPpGvdyYMaOSW6G/0nVY8qdNWj6gdgKkNfL+TSi3R0mejuz66Up7PzQrb3zZmFPg+Fb+yX6TrYdhfLVThoba3JSjrThgAE7P99eiQRtV8xJ6nmT0Cr4VsdyWVNbk+Yh7oR/e8te8mLVXjowGvaK5S/B9UYr0zYzKBqDAymUFrs= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=m5p.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=m5p.com; arc=none smtp.client-ip=74.104.188.4 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=m5p.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=m5p.com Received: from m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff:0:0:0:f7]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 42C0FS1x072609 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:15:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ehem@m5p.com) Received: (from ehem@localhost) by m5p.com (8.17.1/8.15.2/Submit) id 42C0FQ1C072608; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ehem) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:15:26 -0700 From: Elliott Mitchell To: Masahiro Yamada Cc: Nicolas Schier , nathan@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [WIP PATCH 00/30] Adding trailing slash to $(*tree) Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 10:07:14PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:10 AM Elliott Mitchell wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:20:17AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > > > > > I see no good reason to do this change. > > > > > > I will not take this series. > > > > Could I get you to provide further detail as to why you consider my > > reasons inadaquate? > > > > The distribution is well-known. I believe in-tree and out-of-tree build > > mechanisms being as possible to each other is a Good Thing. > > > > I guess I should also note, in the past (890676c65d699, 9da0763bdd825, > > likely others) nicer build output has been sufficient justification for > > changes. An effect of the series is a leading "./" will disappear from > > many files in full build output. As such this also matches that reason. > > It is ideal to in-tree and out-of-tree build mechanisms > look symmetrical (and perhaps could be achieved in a > different way), but your approach is not the direction > I want to go. I'm glad we're in agreement with the former. Do you have any guesses for when your approach to this will be visible? I suspect most approaches will eventually run into an issue with the current interpretation of $(srctree)/$(objtree). Unless you can ensure $(src)/$(obj) will never end up with absolute paths. -- (\___(\___(\______ --=> 8-) EHM <=-- ______/)___/)___/) \BS ( | ehem+sigmsg@m5p.com PGP 87145445 | ) / \_CS\ | _____ -O #include O- _____ | / _/ 8A19\___\_|_/58D2 7E3D DDF4 7BA6 <-PGP-> 41D1 B375 37D0 8714\_|_/___/5445