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From: Elliott Mitchell <ehem+linux@m5p.com>
To: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	nathan@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [WIP PATCH 00/30] Adding trailing slash to $(*tree)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:09:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZekFzmXKKgHYZPcq@mattapan.m5p.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNAT+dnMAEd0nxXmb-szR-5oHZyB2YOTjVCBypDbwAXNHsw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:20:17AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 4:36 AM Elliott Mitchell <ehem+linux@m5p.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:57:18AM +0100, Nicolas Schier wrote:
> > >
> > > can you please describe a concrete problem you want to solve with your
> > > patch set?  Masahiro already asked in [1], and I still don't get your
> > > motivation while reading your cover letter.  It would be helpful to see
> > > your goal when looking at your patches.
> >
> > I'm trying to develop an alternative kernel build system for one Linux
> > distribution.  Due to how other pieces of the distribution work it seems
> > using the out-of-tree build mechanism to build in-tree modules may be a
> > better approach.  This may be abusing the current build system, but if it
> > works without breaking anything else that should be acceptable.
> >
> > The problem I've run into is due to the mechanisms of the build system,
> > the variable $(srctree) gets the value "." while $(src) got the value of
> > $(CURDIR).
> >
> > At which point various places which use $(srctree)/$(src) ended up with
> > the value ./`pwd` and that doesn't work.  Almost all uses of $(srctree)
> > had it followed with a slash, so if $(srctree) includes the trailing
> > slash, $(srctree)$(src) ends up the correct value.
> >
> > This may be outside the envelope of what is supportted, but if it works
> > without breaking anything it really should be okay.

> I see no good reason to do this change.
> 
> I will not take this series.

Could I get you to provide further detail as to why you consider my
reasons inadaquate?

The distribution is well-known.  I believe in-tree and out-of-tree build
mechanisms being as possible to each other is a Good Thing.

I guess I should also note, in the past (890676c65d699, 9da0763bdd825,
likely others) nicer build output has been sufficient justification for
changes.  An effect of the series is a leading "./" will disappear from
many files in full build output.  As such this also matches that reason.


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-03 23:24 [WIP PATCH 00/30] Adding trailing slash to $(*tree) Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 19:48 ` [WIP PATCH 29/30] tools/build: modify uses of $(srctree) to assume trailing slash Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 19:48 ` [WIP PATCH 07/30] build: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 19:48 ` [WIP PATCH 06/30] " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 19:48 ` [WIP PATCH 11/30] scripts: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 20:03 ` [WIP PATCH 12/30] " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 20:03 ` [WIP PATCH 08/30] build: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 20:51 ` [WIP PATCH 01/30] build: replace uses of $(abspath ) with existing variables Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-04  9:50   ` Nicolas Schier
2024-03-04 10:01     ` Nicolas Schier
2024-03-04 19:45       ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-05 10:51         ` Nicolas Schier
2024-03-01 23:26 ` [WIP PATCH 16/30] scripts/dtc: dtx_diff: include trailing slash in ${srctree} variable Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 23:50 ` [WIP PATCH 02/30] scripts/coccicheck: modify to handle ${srctree} with trailing slash Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-01 23:50 ` [WIP PATCH 25/30] " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  0:29 ` [WIP PATCH 15/30] build/scripts: install.sh: modify use of ${srctree} for " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  0:32 ` [WIP PATCH 17/30] build/scripts: generate_initcall_order.pl: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  0:33 ` [WIP PATCH 18/30] build/scripts: streamline_config.pl: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  1:08 ` [WIP PATCH 14/30] build/scripts: link-vmlinux.sh: modify use of ${objtree} " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  1:43 ` [WIP PATCH 19/30] scripts/package: mkdebian: modify use of ${srctree} to assume " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  1:43 ` [WIP PATCH 20/30] scripts/package: buildtar: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  1:46 ` [WIP PATCH 22/30] scripts/nsdeps: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  1:47 ` [WIP PATCH 23/30] build/scripts: makelst: modify suggested use of ${srctree} for " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  2:01 ` [WIP PATCH 21/30] scripts/package: mkspec: modify use of ${srctree} to assume " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-02  2:02 ` [WIP PATCH 24/30] scripts/generate_rust_analyzer.py: modify use of ${srctree} for " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 22:11 ` [WIP PATCH 03/30] build: handle optional trailing slash in $(srctree) Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 09/30] build: modify uses of $(objtree) to assume trailing slash Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 10/30] scripts: modify uses of $(srctree) " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 30/30] tools/build: modify uses of $(objtree) " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 13/30] scripts: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 28/30] tools/build: modify uses of $(srctree) " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 05/30] build: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 26/30] build: change $(*tree) to empty for current directory Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 04/30] build: add trailing slash to $(*tree) Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-03 23:24 ` [WIP PATCH 27/30] tools/build: " Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-04  9:57 ` [WIP PATCH 00/30] Adding " Nicolas Schier
2024-03-04 19:36   ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-05 10:43     ` Nicolas Schier
2024-03-07  0:02       ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-05 15:20     ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-03-07  0:09       ` Elliott Mitchell [this message]
2024-03-10 13:07         ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-03-12  0:15           ` Elliott Mitchell
2024-03-13  4:22             ` Masahiro Yamada

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