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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: "Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: kbuild: explain handling optional dependencies
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:57:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2723c56-e2b0-4871-afbc-73cf6335ddca@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jjwx44g.fsf@intel.com>

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, at 15:42, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
>> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
>>  
>> +Optional dependencies
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> +
>> +Some drivers are able to optionally use a feature from another module
>> +or build cleanly with that module disabled, but cause a link failure
>> +when trying to use that loadable module from a built-in driver.
>> +
>> +The most common way to express this optional dependency in Kconfig logic
>> +uses the slighly counterintuitive
>> +
>> +  config FOO
>> +	bool "Support for foo hardware"
>> +	depends on BAR || !BAR
>
> 	depends on BAR || BAR=n
>
> seems to be an alternative that's about as common:
>
> $ git grep "depends on \([A-Z0-9_]\+\) || \!\1" | wc -l
> 109
> $ git grep "depends on \([A-Z0-9_]\+\) || \1=n" | wc -l
> 107
>
> Maybe worth mentioning both?

I fear that would add more confusion than it avoids:
"!BAR" is actually different from "BAR=n", but
"BAR || !BAR" is the same as "BAR || BAR=n" here, and
trying to explain this in the documentation would either
make it incorrect or unhelpfully complicated.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-14 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13 11:37 [PATCH] Documentation: kbuild: explain handling optional dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 14:25 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-13 16:11 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-09-13 19:48 ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-13 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 20:34     ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-13 21:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:51         ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-14  5:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:56         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-14 17:07       ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-14 13:42 ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 14:57   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-09-14 15:56     ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 17:23     ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-15  5:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-15  7:34         ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-15  7:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-15 15:48             ` Randy Dunlap

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