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Bruce Fields" To: Greg KH Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] fcntl: fix potential deadlocks for &fown_struct.lock Message-ID: <20210707153417.GA10570@fieldses.org> References: <20210707023548.15872-1-desmondcheongzx@gmail.com> <20210707023548.15872-2-desmondcheongzx@gmail.com> <14633c3be87286d811263892375f2dfa9a8ed40a.camel@kernel.org> <4dda1cad6348fced5fcfcb6140186795ed07d948.camel@kernel.org> <20210707135129.GA9446@fieldses.org> <20210707151936.GB9911@fieldses.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: syzbot+e6d5398a02c516ce5e70@syzkaller.appspotmail.com, Jeff Layton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Desmond Cheong Zhi Xi , linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-BeenThere: linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: linux-kernel-mentees-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Linux-kernel-mentees" On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 05:31:06PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:19:36AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 05:06:45PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 09:51:29AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 07:40:47AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:51 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 06:44:42AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 08:05 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 10:35:47AM +0800, Desmond Cheong Zhi Xi wrote: > > > > > > > > > + WARN_ON_ONCE(irqs_disabled()); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this triggers, you just rebooted the box :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please never do this, either properly handle the problem and return an > > > > > > > > error, or do not check for this. It is not any type of "fix" at all, > > > > > > > > and at most, a debugging aid while you work on the root problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait, what? Why would testing for irqs being disabled and throwing a > > > > > > > WARN_ON in that case crash the box? > > > > > > > > > > > > If panic-on-warn is enabled, which is a common setting for systems these > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, that makes some sense. > > > > > > > > Wait, I don't get it. > > > > > > > > How are we supposed to decide when to use WARN, when to use BUG, and > > > > when to panic? Do we really want to treat them all as equivalent? And > > > > who exactly is turning on panic-on-warn? > > > > > > You never use WARN or BUG, unless the system is so messed up that you > > > can not possibly recover from the issue. > > > > I've heard similar advice for BUG before, but this is the first I've > > heard it for WARN. Do we have any guidelines for how to choose between > > WARN and BUG? > > Never use either :) I can't tell if you're kidding. Is there some plan to remove them? There are definitely cases where I've been able to resolve a problem more quickly because I got a backtrace from a WARN. --b. _______________________________________________ Linux-kernel-mentees mailing list Linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-kernel-mentees