From: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Cc: Prithvi <activprithvi@gmail.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
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Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] staging: rtl8723bs: fix constant on left side of test checkpatch warnings
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 16:22:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <730559e1-aea5-492e-8e5d-9a7ed3b38323@linuxfoundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acRU-NKBqLe4-e3E@stanley.mountain>
On 3/25/26 15:34, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 11:57:38AM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
>> My primary concern with this change is that it 10 files changed, with
>> 26 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
>>
>> It can be difficult to find any regressions unless the changes are
>> tested. I understand it is staging repo, but if we relax the rules
>> for staging irrespective of the scope of change, it becomes lot
>> harder to find regressions later. We are essentially leaving the
>> job of testing to users. Also if ans when the driver is pulled into
>> mainline, it will inherit the regressions that crept in.
>>
>
> To me this is a mechanical patch (basically automatic, flip the
> if statement) from a newbie. These kinds of patches are seldom a
> problem.
>
> I took a sample of the patches for five years from 2021 to the end of
> 2025. We merged 54406 commits in staging. We had 401 Fixes tags. But
> then I decided I don't care about Kconfig problems so I cut it down to
> 380 bugs. Half of those (189 commits) were from when the driver was
> merged. We tend to not review code very much when it is first merged
> to staging. The other half (191 commits) were from us missing bugs
> during review. 191 bugs over five years is 40 bugs per year.
>
> I hand reviewed a bunch of the 191 commits. It's mostly senior
> developers and maintainers who introduce bugs. They are normally doing
> complicated things like adding features or re-working core parts of the
> driver. Quite a few of these patches were tested.
>
> The fallout from newbie patches is pretty rare and often really
> minor. A common thing is "We deleted code but we didn't delete
> everything." The number of serious mess ups is probably just a
> couple times per year out of the 40 total bugs per year.
>
> I've attached my script so you can check yourself. NEW means the
> bug was introduced by a new driver. OLD means, ideally it would
> have been caught in review.
>
I am not the maintainer for this driver, so it is really up to the
maintainer(s) to accept mechanical patches such as this one.
As for the mentorship, I like to use a consistent rule that testing
for regressions is important and that author needs to disclose how
the patch is tested or not tested in the version 1 of the patch and
add RFT tag. That way maintainers can make an informed decision on
whether to accept the patch or not.
thanks,
-- Shuah
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-25 22:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-23 16:29 [PATCH v2] staging: rtl8723bs: fix constant on left side of test checkpatch warnings Prithvi Tambewagh
2026-03-23 16:42 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-24 13:02 ` Prithvi
2026-03-24 13:43 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-24 13:55 ` Prithvi
2026-03-24 14:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-03-24 16:02 ` Prithvi
2026-03-24 17:41 ` Shuah Khan
2026-03-25 7:22 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-03-25 17:57 ` Shuah Khan
2026-03-25 21:34 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-03-25 22:22 ` Shuah Khan [this message]
2026-03-28 17:47 ` Prithvi
2026-03-30 16:03 ` Greg KH
2026-04-03 7:31 ` Prithvi
2026-04-03 8:04 ` Greg KH
2026-04-03 9:46 ` Prithvi
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