public inbox for linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux-foundation.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: I Hsin Cheng <richard120310@gmail.com>,
	syzbot+d5e61dcfda08821a226d@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Cc: anna-maria@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH RESEND] timerqueue: Complete rb_node initialization within timerqueue_init
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2025 13:46:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qodwlzw.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250405080533.519290-1-richard120310@gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 05 2025 at 16:05, I. Hsin Cheng wrote:
> The children of "node" within "struct timerqueue_node" may be uninit
> status after the initialization. Initialize them as NULL under
> timerqueue_init to prevent the problem.

Which problem?

It's completely sufficient to use RB_INIT_NODE() on initialization.

As you did not provide a link and no explanation, I had to waste some
time to search though the syzbot site and looked at the actual issue:

BUG: KMSAN: uninit-value in rb_next+0x200/0x210 lib/rbtree.c:505
 rb_next+0x200/0x210 lib/rbtree.c:505
 rb_erase_cached include/linux/rbtree.h:124 [inline]
 timerqueue_del+0xee/0x1a0 lib/timerqueue.c:57
 __remove_hrtimer kernel/time/hrtimer.c:1123 [inline]
 __run_hrtimer kernel/time/hrtimer.c:1771 [inline]
 __hrtimer_run_queues+0x3b7/0xe40 kernel/time/hrtimer.c:1855
 hrtimer_interrupt+0x41b/0xb10 kernel/time/hrtimer.c:1917
 local_apic_timer_interrupt arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c:1038 [inline]
 __sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0xa7/0x420 arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c:1055
 instr_sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c:1049 [inline]
 sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0x7e/0x90 arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c:1049

So this code removes a queued timer from the RB tree and that KMSAN
warning happens in rb_next(), which is invoked from rb_erase_cached().

The issue happens in lib/rbtree.c:505

505:    while (node->rb_left)
506:          node = node->rb_left;

which is walking the tree down left. So that means it hits a pointer
which points to uninitialized memory.

All timers are queued with rb_add_cached(), which calls rb_link_node()
and that does:

    node->rb_left = node->rb_right = NULL;

Which means there can't be a timer enqueued in the RB tree which has
rb_left/right uninitialized.

So how does this end up at uninitialized memory? There are two
obvious explanations:

    1) A stray pointer corrupts the RB tree

    2) A queued timer has been freed

So what would this "initialization" help? Nothing at all.

We are not adding some random pointless initialization to paper
over a problem which is absolutely not understood.

Thanks,

        tglx



      reply	other threads:[~2025-04-06 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <67e52451.050a0220.2f068f.0027.GAE@google.com>
2025-04-05  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH] timerqueue: Complete rb_node initialization within timerqueue_init I Hsin Cheng
2025-04-05  8:05 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND] " I Hsin Cheng
2025-04-06 11:46   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=878qodwlzw.ffs@tglx \
    --to=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=anna-maria@linutronix.de \
    --cc=dvyukov@google.com \
    --cc=elver@google.com \
    --cc=frederic@kernel.org \
    --cc=glider@google.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=richard120310@gmail.com \
    --cc=skhan@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=syzbot+d5e61dcfda08821a226d@syzkaller.appspotmail.com \
    --cc=syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox