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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>, Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ziy@nvidia.com,
	matthew.brost@intel.com, joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com,
	rakie.kim@sk.com, byungchul@sk.com, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
	apopple@nvidia.com, shuah@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] KVM: guest_memfd: bind backing memory to a NUMA node
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 13:32:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0386eb30-0e0c-4d8c-abfe-86161b9e3d1f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqHkVKvons1tBs1O@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On 9/10/26 01:10, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 03:41:35PM -0700, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
>>
>>> guest_memfd allocates its folios through a per-inode shared mempolicy.
>>>
>>> Today that policy can only be set after the fact, with mbind() on a host
>>> mmap of the fd. That requires the fd to be mappable, and it cannot reach
>>> folios that are only ever guest-faulted. Neither holds for a
>>> non-mappable (confidential) guest_memfd.
>>>
>>> Add GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_BIND_NODE and a node field to struct
>>> kvm_create_guest_memfd. When set, KVM builds an MPOL_BIND policy for the
>>> requested node and installs it over the whole inode, so every folio is
>>> allocated there with no userspace mbind().
>>>
>>
>> Instead of a custom API to ensure all guest_memfd allocations come from
>> a single node, how about these options?
>>
>> 1. Using cgroups/cpuset to constrain allocations (could be troublesome
>>    if the guest memory is not preallocated, unless the vCPU threads are
>>    running with the cpuset config)
>>
>> 2. Process-level NUMA policy
>>
> 
> for 1 and 2:
> 
> the intent is to put the guest memory on the target node, not all system
> memory for a given process.  so the scope here is not the same.
> 
> in fact at that granularity, the desired node may not even have eligible
> memory to host the task's memory.
> 
>> 3. Why not request the guest_memfd to be mmap-able just to be able to
>>    set a memory policy?
>>
> 
> the eventual intent is to enable this for fully confidential,
> host-unmapped guest, isolated to a particular memory device.
> 
> Requiring a mapping to get node-placement is quite defeating the point.

You only need a VMA, not actually mapped/faulted pages. So I don't immediately
see the problem?

-- 
Cheers,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-02 19:46 [PATCH 0/5] KVM: guest_memfd: bind backing memory to a NUMA node Gregory Price
2026-09-02 19:46 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm/mempolicy: add mempolicy_create() Gregory Price
2026-09-02 19:46 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/mempolicy: add mpol_set_shared_policy_range() Gregory Price
2026-09-02 19:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: guest_memfd: bind backing memory to a NUMA node at creation Gregory Price
2026-09-02 19:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] selftests: KVM: guest_memfd: let the gmem_test() harness bind a node Gregory Price
2026-09-02 19:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] selftests: KVM: guest_memfd: test GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_BIND_NODE Gregory Price
2026-09-09 22:41 ` [PATCH 0/5] KVM: guest_memfd: bind backing memory to a NUMA node Ackerley Tng
2026-09-09 23:10   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-09 23:23     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-09-09 23:41       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-10 11:32     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-10 13:39       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-10 14:00         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 13:40   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-10 14:05     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 14:46       ` Gregory Price

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