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From: Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, shuah@kernel.org, will@kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/25] Permission Overlay Extension
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:41:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231205154116.GA3613610@e124191.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86jzpub56r.wl-maz@kernel.org>

Hi Marc,

On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 11:03:24AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> Hi Joey,
> 
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 16:34:45 +0000,
> Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > This series implements the Permission Overlay Extension introduced in 2022
> > VMSA enhancements [1]. It is based on v6.7-rc2.
> > 
> > Changes since v2[2]:
> > 	# Added ptrace support and selftest
> > 	# Add missing POR_EL0 initialisation in fork/clone
> > 	# Rebase onto v6.7-rc2
> > 	# Add r-bs
> > 
> > The Permission Overlay Extension allows to constrain permissions on memory
> > regions. This can be used from userspace (EL0) without a system call or TLB
> > invalidation.
> 
> I have given this series a few more thoughts, and came to the
> conclusion that is it still incomplete on the KVM front:
> 
> * FEAT_S1POE often comes together with FEAT_S2POE. For obvious
>   reasons, we cannot afford to let the guest play with S2POR_EL1, nor
>   do we want to advertise FEAT_S2POE to the guest.
> 
>   You will need to add some additional FGT for this, and mask out
>   FEAT_S2POE from the guest's view of the ID registers.

I found out last week that I had misunderstood S2POR_EL1, so yes looks like
we need to trap that. I will add that in.

> 
> * letting the guest play with POE comes with some interesting strings
>   attached: a guest that has started on a POE-enabled host cannot be
>   migrated to one that doesn't have POE. which means that the POE
>   registers should only be visible to the host userspace if enabled in
>   the guest's ID registers, and thus only context-switched in these
>   conditions. They should otherwise UNDEF.

Can you give me some clarification here?
	
	- By visible to the host userspace do you mean via the GET_ONE_REG API?
	- Currently the ID register (ID_AA64MMFR3_EL1) is not ID_WRITABLE,
	  should this series or another make it so? Currently if the host had
	  POE it's enabled in the guest, so I believe migration to a non-POE
	  host will fail?
	- For the context switch, do you mean something like:

		if (system_supports_poe() && ID_REG(MMFR3_EL1) & S1POE)
			ctxt_sys_reg(ctxt, POR_EL0)     = read_sysreg_s(SYS_POR_EL0);

	  That would need some refactoring, since I don't see how to access
	  id_regs from struct kvm_cpu_context.

Thanks,
Joey

      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-05 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-24 16:34 [PATCH v3 00/25] Permission Overlay Extension Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] arm64/sysreg: add system register POR_EL{0,1} Joey Gouly
2023-12-04 18:40   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] arm64/sysreg: update CPACR_EL1 register Joey Gouly
2023-12-04 18:41   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] arm64: cpufeature: add Permission Overlay Extension cpucap Joey Gouly
2023-11-25 12:11   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-04 18:46   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] arm64: disable trapping of POR_EL0 to EL2 Joey Gouly
2023-12-07 13:37   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register Joey Gouly
2023-11-25 12:02   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-07 13:55     ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-07 14:12       ` Mark Brown
2023-12-07 13:51   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] KVM: arm64: Save/restore POE registers Joey Gouly
2023-11-27 18:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-29 15:11     ` Joey Gouly
2023-11-29 19:47       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-30 15:51   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] arm64: enable the Permission Overlay Extension for EL0 Joey Gouly
2023-12-07 14:08   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] arm64: add POIndex defines Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] arm64: define VM_PKEY_BIT* for arm64 Joey Gouly
2023-12-07 15:10   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] arm64: mask out POIndex when modifying a PTE Joey Gouly
2023-12-07 15:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] arm64: enable ARCH_HAS_PKEYS on arm64 Joey Gouly
2023-12-07 15:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-07 15:44     ` Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] arm64: handle PKEY/POE faults Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-13 15:02     ` Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] arm64: stop using generic mm_hooks.h Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:34 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] arm64: implement PKEYS support Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-14 13:47     ` Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] arm64: add POE signal support Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-12 12:03     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] arm64: enable PKEY support for CPUs with S1POE Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] arm64: enable POE and PIE to coexist Joey Gouly
2023-12-11 18:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] arm64/ptrace: add support for FEAT_POE Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 17:18   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 18:58   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] kselftest/arm64: move get_header() Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 17:16   ` Mark Brown
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] selftests: mm: move fpregs printing Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] selftests: mm: make protection_keys test work on arm64 Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] kselftest/arm64: add HWCAP test for FEAT_S1POE Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 17:02   ` Mark Brown
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] kselftest/arm64: parse POE_MAGIC in a signal frame Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] kselftest/arm64: Add test case for POR_EL0 signal frame records Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 17:04   ` Mark Brown
2023-11-24 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] KVM: selftests: get-reg-list: add Permission Overlay registers Joey Gouly
2023-11-24 17:07   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-04 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/25] Permission Overlay Extension Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 15:41   ` Joey Gouly [this message]

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