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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:25:08 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250516132508.GF613512@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52761C3553652A790934129B8C93A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:42:32AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 12:06 AM
> > 
> > Do we have way to make the pinning optional?
> > 
> > As I understand AMD's system the iommu HW itself translates the
> > base_addr through the S2 page table automatically, so it doesn't need
> > pinned memory and physical addresses but just the IOVA.
> > 
> 
> Though using IOVA could eliminate pinning conceptually, implementation
> wise an IOMMU may not tolerate translation errors in its access to guest
> queues with assumption that S2 is pinned.

Yes, but the entire S2 is pinned today. This isn't about transient unmap..

If the VMM decides to unmap the memory, eg with hotunplug or
something, then I'd fully expect the IOMMU to take a fault and forward
the error to the guest. Guest make a mistake to put the queue in
memory that was hot-unplugged.
 
Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09  3:02 [PATCH v4 00/23] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/23] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-allocated vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/23] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_alloc op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:44   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/23] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/23] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/23] iommufd/driver: Let iommufd_viommu_alloc helper save ictx to viommu->ictx Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 17:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 20:56         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-26 13:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-27 18:41             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-30 18:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 18:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_struct_destroy to revert iommufd_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-14 19:21     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 12:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:55         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/23] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/23] iommufd/selftest: Add covearge for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:50   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/23] iommufd: Abstract iopt_pin_pages and iopt_unpin_pages helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15  5:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/23] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:14     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:30     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:59       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-19 17:05         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-15 15:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 18:44     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:49       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  3:16         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  3:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:05             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-18 15:19               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 18:16     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:32         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:42     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-05-19 17:29     ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-19 18:14       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-20  8:38         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-23  1:51           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-26 13:29             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 12/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 13/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 14/23] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09 14:13   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-09 19:30   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:08     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:42         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 15/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 16/23] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 17/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_alloc impl op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:32     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 18/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Support implementation-defined hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 18:52     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 19:21         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 19:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:17             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 19/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 20/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 21/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:20   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:03     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 22/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:27   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  4:00       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 23/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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