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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Cc: Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>,
	 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/16] vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 17:24:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2vxzcxyy9fpd.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agT9bYpXskVwW0E_@google.com> (Samiullah Khawaja's message of "Wed, 13 May 2026 22:42:56 +0000")

On Wed, May 13 2026, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:

> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 02:29:19PM -0700, Vipin Sharma wrote:
>>On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 01:59:51PM -0700, David Matlack wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 4:48 PM Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > diff --git a/drivers/vfio/pci/Kconfig b/drivers/vfio/pci/Kconfig
>>> > index c12d614fc6c4..019de053f116 100644
>>> > --- a/drivers/vfio/pci/Kconfig
>>> > +++ b/drivers/vfio/pci/Kconfig
>>> > @@ -45,13 +45,15 @@ config VFIO_PCI_IGD
>>> >
>>> >  config VFIO_PCI_LIVEUPDATE
>>> >         bool "VFIO PCI support for Live Update (EXPERIMENTAL)"
>>> > -       depends on PCI_LIVEUPDATE
>>> > +       depends on PCI_LIVEUPDATE && VFIO_DEVICE_CDEV
>>> >         help
>>> >           Support for preserving devices bound to vfio-pci across a Live
>>> >           Update. This option should only be enabled by developers working on
>>> >           implementing this support. Once enough support has landed in the
>>> >           kernel, this option will no longer be marked EXPERIMENTAL.
>>> >
>>> > +         Enabling this will disable support for VFIO PCI DMA buffer.
>>> > +
>>> >           If you don't know what to do here, say N.
>>> >
>>> >  endif
>>> > @@ -68,7 +70,7 @@ config VFIO_PCI_ZDEV_KVM
>>> >           To enable s390x KVM vfio-pci extensions, say Y.
>>> >
>>> >  config VFIO_PCI_DMABUF
>>> > -       def_bool y if VFIO_PCI_CORE && PCI_P2PDMA && DMA_SHARED_BUFFER
>>> > +       def_bool y if VFIO_PCI_CORE && PCI_P2PDMA && DMA_SHARED_BUFFER && !VFIO_PCI_LIVEUPDATE
>>>
>>> Why does enabling VFIO_PCI_LIVEUPDATE require disabling
>>> VFIO_PCI_DMABUF? I saw the cover letter says "to keep things simple",
>>> but what specific problem does this solve or simplify?
>>
>>I should have provided more details there.
>>
>>When device is getting reset in vfio_pci_liveupdate_freeze(), we are
>>zapping userspace mapped bars, we also need to use
>>vfio_pci_dma_buf_move() to revoke dma buffer access or
>>vfio_pci_dma_buf_cleanup() combination. Cleanup takes the memory lock
>>which freeze already takes, and there are some refcounts which are
>>managed in both of these APIs. This was causing complexities with code
>>flow based on result of pci_load_saved_state(). All this was adding more
>>refactoring than I wanted in the series.
>
> Maybe we can return -EOPNOTSUPP if any dmabufs for this vfio cdev are
> exported during preserve?

Whichever way you go with, a TODO/comment would be nice to have so
someone (including future you) looking at this code knows why this
restriction exists.

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-14 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 23:47 [PATCH v4 00/16] vfio/pci: Base Live Update support for VFIO Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update Vipin Sharma
2026-05-12 20:59   ` David Matlack
2026-05-12 21:29     ` Vipin Sharma
2026-05-13 22:42       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-14 15:24         ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] vfio/pci: Retrieve preserved device files after " Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] vfio/pci: Notify PCI subsystem about devices preserved across " Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] vfio: Enforce preserved devices are retrieved via LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] vfio/pci: Store incoming Live Update state in struct vfio_pci_core_device Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] docs: liveupdate: Add documentation for VFIO PCI Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] vfio: selftests: Build liveupdate library in VFIO selftests Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] vfio: selftests: Initialize vfio_pci_device using a VFIO cdev FD Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] vfio: selftests: Add Makefile support for TEST_GEN_PROGS_EXTENDED Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:47 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] vfio: selftests: Expose iommu_modes to tests Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:48 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] vfio: selftests: Expose low-level helper routines for setting up struct vfio_pci_device Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:48 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] vfio: selftests: Verify that opening VFIO device fails during Live Update Vipin Sharma
2026-05-11 23:48 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] vfio: selftests: Add continuous DMA to vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test Vipin Sharma

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