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From: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: <kevin.tian@intel.com>, <corbet@lwn.net>, <joro@8bytes.org>,
	<suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>, <will@kernel.org>,
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	<baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	<jean-philippe@linaro.org>, <mdf@kernel.org>,
	<mshavit@google.com>, <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	<smostafa@google.com>, <aik@amd.com>, <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 13/13] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update vIOMMU
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:10:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46d2d0ea-45a9-4179-bd1f-838c82af8d16@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241116003443.GB35230@nvidia.com>

On 2024/11/16 08:34, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 02:07:41PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 12:20:10PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 07:18:42PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>>>>> so the user would try to create vDevices with a given viommu_obj until
>>>>> failure, then it would allocate another viommu_obj for the failed device.
>>>>> is it? sounds reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is the same as previously dealing with a nesting parent:
>>>> test and allocate if fails. The virtual IOMMU driver in VMM can
>>>> keep a list of the vIOMMU objects for each device to test.
>>>
>>> The viommu object should be tied to the VMM's vIOMMU vHW object that
>>> it is paravirtualizing toward the VM.
>>>
>>> So we shouldn't be creating viommu objects on demand, it should be
>>> created when the vIOMMU is created, and the presumably the qemu
>>> command line will describe how to link vPCI/VFIO functions to vIOMMU
>>> instances. If they kernel won't allow the user's configuration then it
>>> should fail, IMHO.
>>
>> Intel's virtual IOMMU in QEMU has one instance but could create
>> two vIOMMU objects for devices behind two different pIOMMUs. So,
>> in this case, it does the on-demand (or try-and-fail) approach?
> 
> I suspect Intel does need viommu at all, and if it ever does it will
> not be able to have one instance..

hmmm. As long as I got, the viommu_obj is a representative of the hw
IOMMU slice of resource used by the VM. It is hence instanced per hw
iommu. Based on this, one vIOMMU can have multiple or one viommu_obj.
Either should be allowed by design.

BTW. @Nic, I think the viommu_obj instance is not strictly be per hw
IOMMUs. e.g. two devices behind one hw IOMMU can have their own viommu_obj
as well. Is it? I didn't see a problem for it. So the viommu_obj is
instanced >= hw IOMMU number used by the VM.

Regards,
Yi Liu

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-18  6:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-05 20:04 [PATCH v7 00/13] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] iommufd: Move struct iommufd_object to public iommufd header Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] iommufd: Move _iommufd_object_alloc helper to a sharable file Nicolin Chen
2024-11-12 15:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] iommufd: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_VIOMMU and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] iommufd: Verify object in iommufd_object_finalize/abort() Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] iommufd: Add alloc_domain_nested op to iommufd_viommu_ops Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] iommufd: Allow pt_id to carry viommu_id for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] iommufd/selftest: Add container_of helpers Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] iommufd/selftest: Prepare for mock_viommu_alloc_domain_nested() Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] iommufd/selftest: Add refcount to mock_iommu_device Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_SELFTEST Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-11-05 20:04 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update vIOMMU Nicolin Chen
2024-11-07  0:56   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-07  1:35     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-07  3:20       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-07  4:04         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-08  9:01           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-12 13:15   ` Yi Liu
2024-11-14  0:18     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-14  3:13       ` Yi Liu
2024-11-14  3:18         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-14 16:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-15 22:07             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-16  0:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-18  6:10                 ` Yi Liu [this message]
2024-11-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v7 00/13] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-1) Jason Gunthorpe

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