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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:51:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48f3a61f-9e04-4755-b50c-8fae6e6112eb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izOXwZS-8sfvn3DuT1XWhjc--7-ZLjr8rMn1XHr5F+ckbA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/11/24 03:21, Mina Almasry wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 11:52 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 16:45:50 +0100 Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> I think this is good, and it doesn't seem hacky to me, because we can
>>>> check the page_pools of the netdev while we hold rtnl, so we can be
>>>> sure nothing is messing with the pp configuration in the meantime.
>>>> Like you say below it does validate the driver rather than rely on the
>>>> driver saying it's doing the right thing. I'll look into putting this
>>>> in the next version.
>>>
>>> Why not have a flag set by the driver and advertising whether it
>>> supports providers or not, which should be checked for instance in
>>> netdev_rx_queue_restart()? If set, the driver should do the right
>>> thing. That's in addition to a new pp_params flag explicitly telling
>>> if pp should use providers. It's more explicit and feels a little
>>> less hacky.
>>
>> You mean like I suggested in the previous two emails? :)
>>
>> Given how easy the check is to implement, I think it's worth
>> adding as a sanity check. But the flag should be the main API,
>> if the sanity check starts to be annoying we'll ditch it.
> 
> I think we're talking about 2 slightly different flags, AFAIU.>
> Pavel and I are suggesting the driver reports "I support memory
> providers" directly to core (via the queue-api or what not), and we
> check that flag directly in netdev_rx_queue_restart(), and fail
> immediately if the support is not there.

I might've misread Jakub, but yes, I believe it's different. It'd
communicate about support for providers to upper layers, so we can
fail even before attempting to allocate a new queue and init a
page pool.

> Jakub is suggesting a page_pool_params flag which lets the driver
> report "I support memory providers". If the driver doesn't support it
> but core is trying to configure that, then the page_pool_create will
> fail, which will cause the queue API operation
> (ndo_queue_alloc_mem_alloc) to fail, which causes
> netdev_rx_queue_restart() to fail.

And I'm not against this way either if we explicitly get an error
back instead of trying to figure it out post-factum like by
checking the references and possibly reverting the allocation.
Maybe that's where I was confused, and that refcount thing was
suggested as a WARN_ONCE?

FWIW, I think it warrants two flags. The first saying that the
driver supports providers at all:

page_pool_init() {
	if (rxq->mp_params)
		if (!(flags & PP_PROVIDERS_SUPPORTED))
			goto fail;
}

And the second telling whether the driver wants to install
providers for this particular page pool, so if there is a
separate pool for headers we can set it with plain old kernel
pages.

payload_pool = page_pool_create(rqx, PP_PROVIDERS_SUPPORTED);
header_pool = page_pool_create(rqx, PP_PROVIDERS_SUPPORTED |
                                     PP_IGNORE_PROVIDERS);

(or invert the flag). That's assuming page_pool_params::queue is
a generic thing and we don't want to draw equivalence between
it and memory providers.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-11 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 21:25 [PATCH net-next v18 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 01/14] netdev: add netdev_rx_queue_restart() Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 02/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 03/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:37   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 04/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 05/14] page_pool: move dmaddr helpers to .c file Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 06/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 20:36     ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09  2:24       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-09 14:10         ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09 15:45           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-10  3:52             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-11  2:21               ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-11 21:51                 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-08-12 17:57                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 18:55                     ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-12 19:10                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 23:57                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  2:31                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 14:39                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:11                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 15:26                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 18:57                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 19:04                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13  0:15                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  1:56                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13  8:39                           ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13  9:03                             ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13 14:33                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 08/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 09/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 10/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 11/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 12/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 13/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 14/14] netdev: add dmabuf introspection Mina Almasry

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