From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, ncardwell@google.com,
shuah@kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
fw@strlen.de, Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] selftests/net: integrate packetdrill with ksft
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:15:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <66def4d595d4_320b62942a@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5c79fd4-d317-4227-a3ca-05cf5e683cad@kernel.org>
Matthieu Baerts wrote:
> Hi Jakub,
>
> On 07/09/2024 02:04, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 19:28:08 -0400 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> >>>> No, we opted for this design exactly to use existing kselftest infra,
> >>>> rather than reimplementing that in our wrapper, as I did in the RFC.
> >>>
> >>> OK, I understood from the discussions from the RFC that by using the
> >>> kselftest infra, the tests would be automatically executed in dedicated
> >>> netns, and it could also help running tests in parallel. That sounded
> >>> great to me, but that's not the case by default from what I see.
> >>
> >> Perhaps that's something to change in the defaults for run_tests.
> >>
> >> Since the infra exist, that is preferable over reimplementing it for
> >> one particular subset of tests.
> >>
> >> Or if not all kselftests can run in netns (quite likely), this needs
> >> to be opt-in. Then a variable defined in the Makefile perhaps. To
> >> tell kselftest to enable the feature for this target.
> >
> > Indeed, I was thinking along the same lines.
>
> Yes, I was also thinking about a variable defined in the Makefile.
>
> Because I suppose this variable will not be added in this cycle, and if
> a v3 is planned, would it be OK to simply prefix the 'packetdrill'
> commands with "unshare -n"? That would be similar to what is already
> done in Netfilter, and it prevents messing up with other tests/host
> settings?
Each target is built and booted separately, right?
These three initial tests share set_defaults.sh, so in practice this
should be fine. Most importantly, not affecting any tests outside
net/packetdrill.
But agreed that netns are needed before adding more.
The unshare approach sounds fine to me. Easier than to plumb a Makefile
variable through to the standalone run_kselftest.sh.
> > 3 give up on target proliferation; on a quick count we have 15 targets
> > in ksft for various bits of networking, faaar more than anyone else
> > + fewer targets limits the need for libraries, libraries local to
> > the target are trivial to handle
> > - ksft has no other form of "grouping" tests, if we collapse into
> > a small number of targets it will be hard to run a group of tests
>
> It is good to have targets, to easily run a group of tests related to a
> modification that has just been done, and to limit the size of the
> required kernel config, etc. Probably easier to have different libs per
> target/subsystem, and when something can be re-used elsewhere, it can be
> extracted to a more generic lib maybe?
The conflicting CONFIGs between targets could be an issue. Even with
packetdrill I had to check HZ and saw a difference with net/bpf.
That said, there could probably be a way to select tests between
-c (collection/target) and -t (individual test) that uses a wildcard.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-09 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-05 23:15 [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] selftests/net: add packetdrill Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-05 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] selftests: support interpreted scripts with ksft_runner.sh Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-05 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] selftests/net: integrate packetdrill with ksft Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-06 11:43 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-06 15:36 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-06 16:26 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-06 23:28 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-07 0:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-09 7:42 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-09 13:15 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2024-09-09 14:14 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-09 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] selftests/net: add packetdrill Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-10 17:45 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-10 22:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-10 0:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
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