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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,  davem@davemloft.net,
	 edumazet@google.com,  pabeni@redhat.com,  ncardwell@google.com,
	 shuah@kernel.org,  linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 fw@strlen.de,  Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] selftests/net: integrate packetdrill with ksft
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:15:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66def4d595d4_320b62942a@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5c79fd4-d317-4227-a3ca-05cf5e683cad@kernel.org>

Matthieu Baerts wrote:
> Hi Jakub,
> 
> On 07/09/2024 02:04, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 19:28:08 -0400 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> >>>> No, we opted for this design exactly to use existing kselftest infra,
> >>>> rather than reimplementing that in our wrapper, as I did in the RFC.  
> >>>
> >>> OK, I understood from the discussions from the RFC that by using the
> >>> kselftest infra, the tests would be automatically executed in dedicated
> >>> netns, and it could also help running tests in parallel. That sounded
> >>> great to me, but that's not the case by default from what I see.  
> >>
> >> Perhaps that's something to change in the defaults for run_tests.
> >>
> >> Since the infra exist, that is preferable over reimplementing it for
> >> one particular subset of tests.
> >>
> >> Or if not all kselftests can run in netns (quite likely), this needs
> >> to be opt-in. Then a variable defined in the Makefile perhaps. To
> >> tell kselftest to enable the feature for this target.
> > 
> > Indeed, I was thinking along the same lines.
> 
> Yes, I was also thinking about a variable defined in the Makefile.
> 
> Because I suppose this variable will not be added in this cycle, and if
> a v3 is planned, would it be OK to simply prefix the 'packetdrill'
> commands with "unshare -n"? That would be similar to what is already
> done in Netfilter, and it prevents messing up with other tests/host
> settings?

Each target is built and booted separately, right?

These three initial tests share set_defaults.sh, so in practice this
should be fine. Most importantly, not affecting any tests outside
net/packetdrill.

But agreed that netns are needed before adding more.

The unshare approach sounds fine to me. Easier than to plumb a Makefile
variable through to the standalone run_kselftest.sh.

> >  3  give up on target proliferation; on a quick count we have 15 targets
> >     in ksft for various bits of networking, faaar more than anyone else
> >    + fewer targets limits the need for libraries, libraries local to
> >      the target are trivial to handle
> >    - ksft has no other form of "grouping" tests, if we collapse into 
> >      a small number of targets it will be hard to run a group of tests
> 
> It is good to have targets, to easily run a group of tests related to a
> modification that has just been done, and to limit the size of the
> required kernel config, etc. Probably easier to have different libs per
> target/subsystem, and when something can be re-used elsewhere, it can be
> extracted to a more generic lib maybe?

The conflicting CONFIGs between targets could be an issue. Even with
packetdrill I had to check HZ and saw a difference with net/bpf.

That said, there could probably be a way to select tests between
-c (collection/target) and -t (individual test) that uses a wildcard.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 23:15 [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] selftests/net: add packetdrill Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-05 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] selftests: support interpreted scripts with ksft_runner.sh Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-05 23:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] selftests/net: integrate packetdrill with ksft Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-06 11:43   ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-06 15:36     ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-06 16:26       ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-06 23:28         ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-07  0:04           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-09  7:42             ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-09 13:15               ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2024-09-09 14:14                 ` Matthieu Baerts
2024-09-09 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] selftests/net: add packetdrill Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-10 17:45   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-09-10 22:26     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-09-10  0:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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