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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Alexis Lothoré" <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com>
Cc: Xu Kuohai <xukuohai@huaweicloud.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/4] bpf: add struct largest member size in func model
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:14:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJjQLdc_Chvz9v2-huCb9rmi048heK-eEX30AtW10H+-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9EWSDXHDGFJ.FIDSHIR1OP80@bootlin.com>

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 6:38 AM Alexis Lothoré
<alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Xu,
>
> On Thu Apr 24, 2025 at 2:00 PM CEST, Xu Kuohai wrote:
> > On 4/24/2025 3:24 AM, Alexis Lothoré wrote:
> >> Hi Andrii,
> >>
> >> On Wed Apr 23, 2025 at 7:15 PM CEST, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 12:14 AM Alexis Lothoré
> >>> <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Andrii,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed Apr 16, 2025 at 11:24 PM CEST, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 1:32 PM Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
> >>>>> <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> Thanks for the pointer, I'll take a look at it. The more we discuss this
> >> series, the less member size sounds relevant for what I'm trying to achieve
> >> here.
> >>
> >> Following Xu's comments, I have been thinking about how I could detect the
> >> custom alignments and packing on structures, and I was wondering if I could
> >> somehow benefit from __attribute__ encoding in BTF info ([1]). But
> >> following your hint, I also see some btf_is_struct_packed() in
> >> tools/lib/bpf/btf_dump.c that could help. I'll dig this further and see if
> >> I can manage to make something work with all of this.
> >>
> >
> > With DWARF info, we might not need to detect the structure alignment anymore,
> > since the DW_AT_location attribute tells us where the structure parameter is
> > located on the stack, and DW_AT_byte_size gives us the size of the structure.
>
> I am not sure to follow you here, because DWARF info is not accessible
> from kernel at runtime, right ? Or are you meaning that we could, at build
> time, enrich the BTF info embedded in the kernel thanks to DWARF info ?

Sounds like arm64 has complicated rules for stack alignment and
stack offset computation for passing 9th+ argument.

Since your analysis shows:
"there are about 200 functions accept 9 to 12 arguments, so adding support
for up to 12 function arguments."
I say, let's keep the existing limitation:
        if (nregs > 8)
                return -ENOTSUPP;

If there is a simple and dumb way to detect that arg9+ are scalars
with simple stack passing rules, then, sure, let's support those too,
but fancy packed/align(x)/etc let's ignore.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-24 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-11 20:32 [PATCH RFC bpf-next 0/4] bpf, arm64: support up to 12 arguments Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/4] bpf: add struct largest member size in func model Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-14 11:04   ` Jiri Olsa
2025-04-14 20:27     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-16 21:24   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-17  7:14     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-17 14:10       ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-20 16:02         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-21  2:14           ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-23 15:38             ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-23 17:15       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-23 19:24         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-24 12:00           ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-24 13:38             ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-24 23:14               ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2025-04-25  8:47                 ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-25  9:23               ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-28  7:11                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-06-04  9:02           ` [Question] attributes encoding in BTF Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-04 17:31             ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-06-05  7:35               ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-05 16:09                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-06  7:45                   ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-06 16:22                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 2/4] bpf, arm64: Support up to 12 function arguments Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 3/4] bpf/selftests: add tests to validate proper arguments alignment on ARM64 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-28  7:01   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-04-28 10:08     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-28 16:52       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-04-28 20:41         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-29  9:49           ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 4/4] bpf/selftests: enable tracing tests for ARM64 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)

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