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From: "Alexis Lothoré" <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/4] bpf: add struct largest member size in func model
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 10:47:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D9FL7V8UX9GP.25220KL6CKOY7@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJjQLdc_Chvz9v2-huCb9rmi048heK-eEX30AtW10H+-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Alexei,

On Fri Apr 25, 2025 at 1:14 AM CEST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 6:38 AM Alexis Lothoré
> <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:

[...]

>> > With DWARF info, we might not need to detect the structure alignment anymore,
>> > since the DW_AT_location attribute tells us where the structure parameter is
>> > located on the stack, and DW_AT_byte_size gives us the size of the structure.
>>
>> I am not sure to follow you here, because DWARF info is not accessible
>> from kernel at runtime, right ? Or are you meaning that we could, at build
>> time, enrich the BTF info embedded in the kernel thanks to DWARF info ?
>
> Sounds like arm64 has complicated rules for stack alignment and
> stack offset computation for passing 9th+ argument.

AFAICT, arm64 has some specificities for large types, but not that much
compared to x86 for example. If I take a look at System V ABI ([1]), I see
pretty much the same constraints:
- p.18: "Arguments of type __int128 offer the same operations as INTEGERs,
  [...] with the exception that arguments of type __int128 that are stored
  in memory must be aligned on a 16-byte boundary"
- p.13: "Structures and unions assume the alignment of their most strictly
  aligned component"
- the custom packing and alignments attributes will end up having the same
  consequence on both architectures

As I mentioned in my cover letter, the new tests covering those same
alignment constraints for ARM64 break on x86, which makes me think other
archs are also silently ignoring those cases.

> Since your analysis shows:
> "there are about 200 functions accept 9 to 12 arguments, so adding support
> for up to 12 function arguments."
> I say, let's keep the existing limitation:
>         if (nregs > 8)
>                 return -ENOTSUPP;
>
> If there is a simple and dumb way to detect that arg9+ are scalars
> with simple stack passing rules, then, sure, let's support those too,
> but fancy packed/align(x)/etc let's ignore.


[1] https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/elf/x86_64-abi-0.99.pdf


-- 
Alexis Lothoré, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-25  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-11 20:32 [PATCH RFC bpf-next 0/4] bpf, arm64: support up to 12 arguments Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/4] bpf: add struct largest member size in func model Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-14 11:04   ` Jiri Olsa
2025-04-14 20:27     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-16 21:24   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-17  7:14     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-17 14:10       ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-20 16:02         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-21  2:14           ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-23 15:38             ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-23 17:15       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-23 19:24         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-24 12:00           ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-24 13:38             ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-24 23:14               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-25  8:47                 ` Alexis Lothoré [this message]
2025-04-25  9:23               ` Xu Kuohai
2025-04-28  7:11                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-06-04  9:02           ` [Question] attributes encoding in BTF Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-04 17:31             ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-06-05  7:35               ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-05 16:09                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-06  7:45                   ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-06-06 16:22                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 2/4] bpf, arm64: Support up to 12 function arguments Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 3/4] bpf/selftests: add tests to validate proper arguments alignment on ARM64 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2025-04-28  7:01   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-04-28 10:08     ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-28 16:52       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-04-28 20:41         ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-29  9:49           ` Alexis Lothoré
2025-04-11 20:32 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 4/4] bpf/selftests: enable tracing tests for ARM64 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)

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