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From: "Zi Yan" <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: "Shivam Kalra" <shivamkalra98@zohomail.in>,
	"Kairui Song" <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Ryan Roberts" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"Dev Jain" <dev.jain@arm.com>, "Barry Song" <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"Lance Yang" <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	"Usama Arif" <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Nico Pache" <nico.pache@linux.dev>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm: support splitting mappingless swapcache folios
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2026 13:02:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKJQ3G2MCOGS.7T7QJ4TDZWG1@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anZLkwwxHdhM2M2Q@KASONG-MC4>

On Fri Aug 7, 2026 at 5:22 PM EDT, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 10:18:05AM +0800, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On Wed Aug 5, 2026 at 11:54 AM EDT, Kairui Song wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 05, 2026 at 08:03:33AM +0800, Zi Yan wrote:
>> >> On 5 Aug 2026, at 7:18, Shivam Kalra via B4 Relay wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Large shmem folios lose their address-space mapping when they are written
>> >> > to swap, but remain valid members of the swap cache. Folios read from swap
>> >> > but not yet associated with an anon_vma can have the same mappingless
>> >> > swapcache state. folio_check_splittable() currently mistakes both cases for
>> >> > truncation and rejects the split with -EBUSY.
>> >> >
>> >> > Implement the longstanding TODO for this state. Allow mappingless
>> >> > swapcache folios to use the existing uniform order-0 swapcache split path,
>> >> > while continuing to reject truly truncated folios and unsupported
>> >> > higher-order or non-uniform swapcache splits.
>> >> 
>> >> Thank you for your patches.
>> >> 
>> >> As Kairui (cc’d) mentioned in [1] (see “A bit more details on this”),
>> >> we might not need to implement this split. I will let Kairui to decide
>> >> how we should deal with this patchset.
>> >> 
>> >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAMgjq7CHDG8JhesSPMkn1kzG8jKb0BXO756BvxMQC_MCn2eTyA@mail.gmail.com/
>> >
>> > Thanks for the CC, this is actually not hard to implement as shown by
>> > Shivam, I just found the code more and more hard to follow and fragile
>> > as we add more logic to it. And we don't have to reject higher order
>> > split either which can be seen easily if the code is cleaner.
>> >
>> > Personally I think doing some cleanup first is better, I haven't post any
>> > code as right now there doesn't seem to be much user of this. It will be
>> > needed if more clean THP swapcache begin to show up due to things like
>> > THP readahead for swap, which isn't here yet. I think I can send an RFC
>> > tomorrow just for reference. I'm fine if we prefer to remove that TODO
>> > using this smaller change first :)
>> 
>> Thanks. Can you also help review this patchset? The changes looks good
>> to me but I am not sure if I get all the details about swapcache handling.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best Regards,
>> Yan, Zi
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the reminder, I got a bit busy so delayed for a day on that
> RFC.
>
> For this series I think it's functionally fine, just the split logic is
> a bit complex to follow and we still have restriction on swap cache
> for order 0 uniform split only. I'll have a closer look later. Also

I agree. I wonder if it is possible that a shmem in swapcache could
enter non uniform split, folio_split(). With Patch 1,
folio_check_splittable() will return -EINVAL, causing a WARN.

Hi Shivam,

Can you check the above issue? If it is possible, we want to avoid it.

> let me know how you think about that RFC.

Sure, will take a look.


-- 
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-08 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-05 11:18 [PATCH 0/3] mm: support splitting mappingless swapcache folios Shivam Kalra via B4 Relay
2026-08-05 11:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/huge_memory: allow " Shivam Kalra via B4 Relay
2026-08-05 11:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: add KUnit coverage for " Shivam Kalra via B4 Relay
2026-08-08 11:10   ` Kairui Song
2026-08-08 15:32     ` Shivam Kalra
2026-08-05 11:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] selftests/mm: test hwpoison recovery of mappingless swapcache THPs Shivam Kalra via B4 Relay
2026-08-05 12:03 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: support splitting mappingless swapcache folios Zi Yan
2026-08-05 15:54   ` Kairui Song
2026-08-07 14:18     ` Zi Yan
2026-08-07 21:22       ` Kairui Song
2026-08-08 17:02         ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-08-09 22:19           ` Shivam Kalra

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