From: Sergey Ryazanov <ryazanov.s.a@gmail.com>
To: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@openvpn.net>,
Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v11 06/23] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_peer object
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:05:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1d70ccf-9731-4ec1-b4c3-606ee7073c18@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52661fed-f521-4cdc-b9e1-b4f3fa292e78@openvpn.net>
On 21.11.2024 23:23, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> On 21/11/2024 00:22, Sergey Ryazanov wrote:
>> On 13.11.2024 12:03, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
>>> 2024-11-13, 03:37:13 +0200, Sergey Ryazanov wrote:
>>>> On 12.11.2024 19:31, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
>>>>> 2024-11-10, 15:38:27 +0200, Sergey Ryazanov wrote:
>>>>>> On 29.10.2024 12:47, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
>>>>>>> An ovpn_peer object holds the whole status of a remote peer
>>>>>>> (regardless whether it is a server or a client).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This includes status for crypto, tx/rx buffers, napi, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only support for one peer is introduced (P2P mode).
>>>>>>> Multi peer support is introduced with a later patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reviewing the peer creation/destroying code I came to a generic
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>> Did you consider keeping a single P2P peer in the peers table as
>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like such approach can greatly simply the code by dropping
>>>>>> all these
>>>>>> 'switch (ovpn->mode)' checks and implementing a unified peer
>>>>>> management. The
>>>>>> 'peer' field in the main private data structure can be kept to
>>>>>> accelerate
>>>>>> lookups, still using peers table for management tasks like
>>>>>> removing all the
>>>>>> peers on the interface teardown.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would save a few 'switch(mode)', but force every client to allocate
>>>>> the hashtable for no reason at all. That tradeoff doesn't look very
>>>>> beneficial to me, the P2P-specific code is really simple. And if you
>>>>> keep ovpn->peer to make lookups faster, you're not removing that many
>>>>> 'switch(mode)'.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the done review, I can retrospectively conclude that I
>>>> personally
>>>> do not like short 'switch' statements and special handlers :)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, this module has a highest density of switches per KLOC
>>>> from what
>>>> I have seen before and a major part of it dedicated to handle the
>>>> special
>>>> case of P2P connection.
>>>
>>> I think it's fine. Either way there will be two implementations of
>>> whatever mode-dependent operation needs to be done. switch doesn't
>>> make it more complex than an ops structure.
>>>
>>> If you're reading the current version and find ovpn_peer_add, you see
>>> directly that it'll do either ovpn_peer_add_mp or
>>> ovpn_peer_add_p2p. With an ops structure, you'd have a call to
>>> ovpn->ops->peer_add, and you'd have to look up all possible ops
>>> structures to know that it can be either ovpn_peer_add_mp or
>>> ovpn_peer_add_p2p. If there's an undefined number of implementations
>>> living in different modules (like net_device_ops, or L4 protocols),
>>> you don't have a choice.
>>>
>>> xfrm went the opposite way to what you're proposing a few years ago
>>> (see commit 0c620e97b349 ("xfrm: remove output indirection from
>>> xfrm_mode") and others), and it made the code simpler.
>>
>> I checked this. Florian did a nice rework. And the way of
>> implementation looks reasonable since there are more than two
>> encapsulation modes and handling is more complex than just selecting a
>> function to call.
>>
>> What I don't like about switches, that it requires extra lines of code
>> and pushes an author to introduce a default case with error handling.
>> It was mentioned that the module unlikely going to support more than
>> two modes. In this context shall we consider ternary operator usage.
>> E.g.:
>
> the default case can actually be dropped. That way we can have the
> compiler warn when one of the enum values is not handled in the switch
> (should there be a new one at some point).
> However, the default is just a sanity check against future code changes
> which may introduce a bug.
>
>>
>> next_run = ovpn->mode == OVPN_MODE_P2P ?
>> ovpn_peer_keepalive_work_p2p(...) :
>> ovpn_peer_keepalive_work_mp(...);
>
> I find this ugly to read :-)
Yeah. Doesn't look pretty as well.
Just to conclude the discussion. Considering what we discussed here and
the Sabrina's point regarding the trampoline penalty for indirect
invocation, we do not have a better solution for now other than using
switches everywhere.
--
Sergey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-23 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 10:47 [PATCH net-next v11 00/23] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 01/23] netlink: add NLA_POLICY_MAX_LEN macro Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 02/23] net: introduce OpenVPN Data Channel Offload (ovpn) Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 03/23] ovpn: add basic netlink support Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-08 23:15 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 10:05 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-19 2:05 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-19 8:12 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-08 23:31 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 10:19 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-19 2:23 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-19 8:16 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 04/23] ovpn: add basic interface creation/destruction/management routines Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-09 1:01 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-12 16:47 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 23:56 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-14 8:07 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-14 22:57 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 13:45 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-15 13:00 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-10 20:42 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 14:03 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-19 3:08 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-19 8:45 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 05/23] ovpn: keep carrier always on Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-09 1:11 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 14:13 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 22:56 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-21 21:17 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-23 22:25 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-23 22:52 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-25 2:26 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-25 13:07 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-25 21:32 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-26 8:17 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-02 10:40 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 06/23] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_peer object Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-30 16:37 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-10-30 20:47 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-05 13:12 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 10:12 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-10 13:38 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-12 17:31 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-13 1:37 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-13 10:03 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-20 23:22 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-21 21:23 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-23 21:05 ` Sergey Ryazanov [this message]
2024-11-10 19:52 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-14 14:55 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 11:56 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-21 21:27 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 07/23] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_socket object Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-10 18:26 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 14:28 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-19 13:44 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 23:34 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-21 21:29 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 23:58 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-21 21:36 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-22 8:08 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 08/23] ovpn: implement basic TX path (UDP) Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-30 17:14 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-10-30 20:58 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-10 22:32 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-12 17:28 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 15:25 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-10 23:54 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 14:39 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-21 0:29 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-21 21:39 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 11:45 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-21 21:41 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 09/23] ovpn: implement basic RX " Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-31 11:29 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-10-31 13:04 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-11 1:54 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 15:02 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-26 0:32 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-26 8:49 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-27 1:40 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-29 13:20 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-12-01 23:34 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-29 16:10 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-12-01 23:39 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-12-02 3:53 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-12 0:16 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 15:05 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 10/23] ovpn: implement packet processing Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 11/23] ovpn: store tunnel and transport statistics Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-31 11:37 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-10-31 13:12 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 12/23] ovpn: implement TCP transport Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-31 14:30 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-31 15:25 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-16 0:33 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-26 1:05 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-26 8:51 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 13/23] ovpn: implement multi-peer support Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 14/23] ovpn: implement peer lookup logic Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-04 11:26 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 1:18 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-12 12:32 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 15/23] ovpn: implement keepalive mechanism Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-05 18:10 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 13:20 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-13 10:36 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 8:12 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-14 9:03 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-22 9:41 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-22 16:18 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-24 0:28 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 16/23] ovpn: add support for updating local UDP endpoint Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 17/23] ovpn: add support for peer floating Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-04 11:24 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 13:52 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-12 10:56 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 14:03 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-13 11:25 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 8:26 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 18/23] ovpn: implement peer add/get/dump/delete via netlink Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-04 15:14 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 14:19 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-13 16:56 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 9:21 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 11:12 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-20 11:34 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 12:10 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-11 15:41 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 14:26 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-13 11:05 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 10:32 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-29 17:00 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-12-01 23:43 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-21 16:02 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-21 21:43 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 19/23] ovpn: implement key add/get/del/swap " Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-05 10:16 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 15:40 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 20/23] ovpn: kill key and notify userspace in case of IV exhaustion Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-05 10:33 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-12 15:44 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-13 14:28 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-11-14 10:38 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-20 12:17 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 21/23] ovpn: notify userspace when a peer is deleted Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 22/23] ovpn: add basic ethtool support Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-29 10:47 ` [PATCH net-next v11 23/23] testing/selftests: add test tool and scripts for ovpn module Antonio Quartulli
2024-10-31 10:00 ` [PATCH net-next v11 00/23] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-01 2:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-01 2:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2024-11-06 1:18 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-14 15:33 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-11-14 22:10 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2024-11-15 15:08 ` Antonio Quartulli
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