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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 00:14:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGR55PUBnwb8qT8U@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGRozoIDIlgl9H9x@Asurada-Nvidia>

On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 04:01:34PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 10:51:20PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 03:07:57PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 08:43:30PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 01:23:17PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > > Or perhaps calling them "non-accelerated commands" would be nicer.
> > > > 
> > > > Uhh okay, so there'll be a separate driver in the VM issuing invalidation
> > > > commands directly to the CMDQV thus we don't see any of it's part here?
> > > 
> > > That's how it works. VM must run a guest-level VCMDQ driver that
> > > separates accelerated and non-accelerated commands as it already
> > > does:
> > > 
> > >     accelerated commands => VCMDQ (HW)
> > > non-accelerated commands => SMMU CMDQ (SW) =iommufd=> SMMU CMDQ (HW)
> > > 
> > 
> > Right exactly what got me confused. I was assuming the same CMDQV driver
> > would run in the Guest kernel but seems like there's another driver for
> > the Guest that's not in tree yet or maybe is a purely user-space thing?
> 
> It's the same tegra241-cmdqv.c in the kernel, which is already
> a part of mainline Linux. Both host and guest run the same copy
> of software. The host kernel just has the user VINTF part (via
> iommufd) additional to what the guest already has.
> 
> > And the weird part was that "invalidation" commands are accelerated but
> > we use the .cache_invalidate viommu op for `non-invalidation` commands.
> > But I guess what you meant there could be non-accelerated invalidation 
> > commands (maybe something stage 2 TLBIs?) which would go through the 
> > .cache_invalidate op, right?
> 
> I am talking about this:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/tegra241-cmdqv.c?h=v6.16-rc4#n305
> 
> Those commands returned "false" will be issued to smmu->cmdq in a
> guest VM, which will be trapped by VMM as a standard SMMU nesting
> and will be further forwarded via iommufd to the host kernel that
> will invoke this cache_invalidate op in the arm-smmu-v3 driver.
> 
> Those commands returned "true" will be issued to vcmdq->cmdq that
> is HW-accelerated queue (setup by VMM via iommufd's hw_queue/mmap).


Right, this brings me back to my original understanding, the arm-smmu-v3
driver checks for "supported commands" and figures out which queue shall
they be issued to.. now there are commands which are "non-invalidation"
commands which are non-acclerated like CMD_PRI_RESP, which would be
issued through the trap => .cache_invalidate path. 

Thus, coming back to the two initial points:

1) Issuing "non-invalidation" commands through .cache_invalidate could
   be confusing, I'm not asking to change the op name here, but if we
   plan to label it, let's label them as "Trapped commands" OR
   "non-accelerated" commands as you suggested.

2) The "FIXME" confusion: The comment in arm_vsmmu_cache_invalidate
   mentions we'd like to "fix" the issuing of commands through the main
   cmdq and instead like to group by "type", if that "type" is the queue
   type (which I assume it is because IOMMU_TYPE has to be arm-smmu-v3),
   what do we plan to do differently there, given that the op is only
   for trapped commands *have* to go through the main CMDQ?

   If we were planning to do something based on the queue type, I was
   hoping for it to be addressed in this series as we've introduced the
   Tegra CMDQ type. 

That's all I wanted to say, sorry for if this was confusing.

> 
> Nicolin

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-02  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-26 19:34 [PATCH v7 00/28] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 01/28] iommufd: Report unmapped bytes in the error path of iopt_unmap_iova_range Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 02/28] iommufd/viommu: Explicitly define vdev->virt_id Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:30   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:40   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 19:59     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 03/28] iommu: Use enum iommu_hw_info_type for type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:48   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 12:51   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 04/28] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 05/28] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_init op Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 06/28] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 07/28] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 08/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 09/28] iommufd/access: Add internal APIs for HW queue to use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 10/28] iommufd/access: Bypass access->ops->unmap for internal use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 20:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-03  4:57       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04  4:08         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 11/28] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-defined vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 12/28] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 13/28] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 13:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 14/28] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 15/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 16/28] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 17/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 18/28] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 19/28] iommu: Allow an input type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:54   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 20/28] iommufd: Allow an input data_type via iommu_hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:58   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 21/28] iommufd/selftest: Update hw_info coverage for an input data_type Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_size/type and vsmmu_init impl ops Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 23/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add hw_info to impl_ops Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:24   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 24/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 25/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 26/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 16:02   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 19:42     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:03       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 20:23         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:43           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 22:07             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 22:51               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 23:01                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  0:14                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2025-07-02  0:46                     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  1:38                       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02 18:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 14:46                           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-03 17:55                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 18:48                               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-04 12:50                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-10  9:04                                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 28/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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