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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 14:46:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGaXqwzfLwsgCH6n@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250702180541.GD1139770@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 03:05:41PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 01:38:33AM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 05:46:06PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 12:14:28AM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > > Thus, coming back to the two initial points:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Issuing "non-invalidation" commands through .cache_invalidate could
> > > >    be confusing, I'm not asking to change the op name here, but if we
> > > >    plan to label it, let's label them as "Trapped commands" OR
> > > >    "non-accelerated" commands as you suggested.
> > > 
> > > VCMDQ only accelerates limited invalidation commands, not all of
> > > them: STE cache invalidation and CD cache invalidation commands
> > > still go down to that op.
> > > 
> > 
> > Right, I'm just saying the "other" non-accelerated commands that are
> > NOT invalidations also go down that op. So, if we add a comment, let's 
> > not call them "non-invalidation" commands.
> 
> There are no non-invalidation commands:
> 
> static int arm_vsmmu_convert_user_cmd(struct arm_vsmmu *vsmmu,
> 				      struct arm_vsmmu_invalidation_cmd *cmd)
> {
> 	switch (cmd->cmd[0] & CMDQ_0_OP) {
> 	case CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NSNH_ALL:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_VA:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_VAA:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_ALL:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_ASID:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_ATC_INV:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_CFGI_CD:
> 	case CMDQ_OP_CFGI_CD_ALL:
> 
> Those are only invalidations.
> 
> CD invalidation can't go through the vCMDQ path.
> 

Right.. I was however hoping we'd also trap commands like CMD_PRI_RESP
and CMD_RESUME...I'm not sure if they should be accelerated via CMDQV..
I guess I'll need to look and understand a little more if they are..

> > > > 2) The "FIXME" confusion: The comment in arm_vsmmu_cache_invalidate
> > > >    mentions we'd like to "fix" the issuing of commands through the main
> > > >    cmdq and instead like to group by "type", if that "type" is the queue
> > > >    type (which I assume it is because IOMMU_TYPE has to be arm-smmu-v3),
> > > 
> > > I recall that FIXME is noted by Jason at that time. And it should
> > > be interpreted as "group by opcode", IIUIC.
> > 
> > I see.. I misunderstood that..
> 
> Yes, we could use the vCMDQ in the SMMU driver for invalidations which
> would give some minor locking advantage. But it is not really
> important to anyone.
> 

Alright, I see. Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

> > > The thing is that for a host kernel that enabled in-kernel VCMDQs,
> > > those trapped user commands can be just issued to the smmu->cmdq
> > > or a vcmdq (picked via the get_secondary_cmdq impl_op).
> > 
> > Ohh.. so maybe some sort of a load balancing thing?
> 
> The goal of the SMMU driver when it detects CMDQV support is to route
> all supported invalidations to CMDQV queues and then balance those
> queues across CPUs to reduce lock contention.
> 

I see.. that makes sense.. so it's a relatively small gain (but a nice
one). Thanks for clarifying!

> Jason

Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-26 19:34 [PATCH v7 00/28] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 01/28] iommufd: Report unmapped bytes in the error path of iopt_unmap_iova_range Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 02/28] iommufd/viommu: Explicitly define vdev->virt_id Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:30   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:40   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 19:59     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 12:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 03/28] iommu: Use enum iommu_hw_info_type for type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:48   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 12:51   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  9:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 04/28] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 05/28] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_init op Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 06/28] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 07/28] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 08/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 09/28] iommufd/access: Add internal APIs for HW queue to use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04 13:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 10/28] iommufd/access: Bypass access->ops->unmap for internal use Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  9:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-02 20:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-03  4:57       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-04  4:08         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 11/28] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-defined vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 12/28] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 13/28] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 13:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 14/28] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 15/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 16/28] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 17/28] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 18/28] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 19/28] iommu: Allow an input type in hw_info op Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:54   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 20/28] iommufd: Allow an input data_type via iommu_hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:58   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 21/28] iommufd/selftest: Update hw_info coverage for an input data_type Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_size/type and vsmmu_init impl ops Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 23/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add hw_info to impl_ops Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 12:24   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 24/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 25/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 26/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 27/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 16:02   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 19:42     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:03       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 20:23         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 20:43           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 22:07             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-01 22:51               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-01 23:01                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  0:14                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02  0:46                     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-02  1:38                       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-02 18:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 14:46                           ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2025-07-03 17:55                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 18:48                               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-07-04 12:50                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-10  9:04                                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH v7 28/28] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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