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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Sagi Shahar <sagis@google.com>
Cc: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	 Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	Ryan Afranji <afranji@google.com>,
	 Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	 Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	 Roger Wang <runanwang@google.com>,
	Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	 Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	"Pratik R. Sampat" <pratikrajesh.sampat@amd.com>,
	 Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	 Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 13/21] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to init TDX memory and finalize VM
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:24:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPu2NsDuU08UQ5N4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAhR5DFJKTTY3tN7AU=BXDRJAGjuortmK0ruQWU8RB_Z6jVugQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, Sagi Shahar wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 11:02 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, Sagi Shahar wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 11:25 AM Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sagi Shahar wrote:
> > > > > From: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/x86/tdx/tdx_util.c b/tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/x86/tdx/tdx_util.c
> > > > > index 2551b3eac8f8..53cfadeff8de 100644
> > > > > --- a/tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/x86/tdx/tdx_util.c
> > > > > +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/x86/tdx/tdx_util.c
> > > > > @@ -270,3 +270,61 @@ void vm_tdx_init_vm(struct kvm_vm *vm, uint64_t attributes)
> > > > >
> > > > >       free(init_vm);
> > > > >  }
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > +
> > > > > +void vm_tdx_finalize(struct kvm_vm *vm)
> > > >
> > > > Why is this not a new kvm_arch_vm_finalize_vcpu() call?
> > >
> > > What do you mean?
> >
> > Ira is pointing out that upstream now has kvm_arch_vm_finalize_vcpus(), so you
> > can (and I agree, should) implement that for x86.c, and do vm_tdx_finalize() from
> > there (based on the VM shape) instead of requiring the caller to manually finalize
> > the TD.
> >
> > Unlike SEV, where userspace can manipulate guest state prior to LAUNCH, TDX guest
> > state is unreachable from time zero, i.e. there is unlikely to be many (any?) use
> > cases where a selftest wants to do something between creating vCPUs and finalizing
> > the TD.
> 
> There are actually a few use cases for calling vm_tdx_finalize
> seperately from the create phase. One such case is when a user wants
> to add additional memslots for testing shared memory conversions.

Why does creating memslots need to be done before finalizing the TD?  The extra
memslots shouldn't _need_ to be included in the initial image, and I don't recall
anything in the kernel that prevents adding a memslot after the TD is initialized.

> Another one is installing interrupt handlers. But these are probably
> rare enough that they can call __vm_create() and vm_vcpu_add()
> manually instead of using the wrapper

Hmm, for installing interrupt handlers, we could handle that by adding a guest
variant, e.g. so that the guest can install/remove exception handlers after
the initial image is finalized.  We probably want that anyways, otherwise tests
would be unable to manipulate handlers throughout a test.

In fact, it's tempting to kill off vm_install_exception_handler() in x86 entirely,
but that's probably not worth the churn (and some tests would be made more complex).

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-25 17:28 [PATCH v11 00/21] TDX KVM selftests Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 01/21] KVM: selftests: Allocate pgd in virt_map() as necessary Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 02/21] KVM: selftests: Expose functions to get default sregs values Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 03/21] KVM: selftests: Expose function to allocate guest vCPU stack Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 04/21] KVM: selftests: Update kvm_init_vm_address_properties() for TDX Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 05/21] KVM: selftests: Expose segment definitons to assembly files Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 06/21] KVM: selftests: Add kbuild definitons Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 07/21] KVM: selftests: Define structs to pass parameters to TDX boot code Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 08/21] KVM: selftests: Add " Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 09/21] KVM: selftests: Set up TDX boot code region Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 10/21] KVM: selftests: Set up TDX boot parameters region Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 11/21] KVM: selftests: Add helper to initialize TDX VM Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 12/21] KVM: selftests: TDX: Use KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES to validate TDs' attribute configuration Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 13/21] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to init TDX memory and finalize VM Sagi Shahar
2025-10-15 16:27   ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-23 23:59     ` Sagi Shahar
2025-10-24 16:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-24 16:45         ` Sagi Shahar
2025-10-24 17:24           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 14/21] KVM: selftests: Call TDX init when creating a new TDX vm Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 15/21] KVM: selftests: Setup memory regions for TDX on vm creation Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 16/21] KVM: selftests: Call KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU when creating a new TDX vcpu Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 17/21] KVM: selftests: Set entry point for TDX guest code Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 18/21] KVM: selftests: Add support for TDX TDCALL from guest Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 19/21] KVM: selftests: Add wrapper for TDX MMIO " Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 20/21] KVM: selftests: Add ucall support for TDX Sagi Shahar
2025-09-25 17:28 ` [PATCH v11 21/21] KVM: selftests: Add TDX lifecycle test Sagi Shahar
2025-10-24 16:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 22:58     ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-27 23:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-28  0:53         ` Sagi Shahar
2025-10-28 17:12           ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-28 14:56         ` Ira Weiny

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