From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 19/34] random: vDSO: only access vDSO datapage after random_init()
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 00:46:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQ6EvdukQytvqK-u@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251106-vdso-sparc64-generic-2-v5-19-97ff2b6542f7@linutronix.de>
Hi Thomas,
I'm not a huge fan of this change:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 11:02:12AM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> +static DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(random_vdso_is_ready);
>
> /* Control how we warn userspace. */
> static struct ratelimit_state urandom_warning =
> @@ -252,6 +253,9 @@ static void random_vdso_update_generation(unsigned long next_gen)
> if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VDSO_GETRANDOM))
> return;
>
> + if (!static_branch_likely(&random_vdso_is_ready))
> + return;
> +
> /* base_crng.generation's invalid value is ULONG_MAX, while
> * vdso_k_rng_data->generation's invalid value is 0, so add one to the
> * former to arrive at the latter. Use smp_store_release so that this
> @@ -274,6 +278,9 @@ static void random_vdso_set_ready(void)
> if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VDSO_GETRANDOM))
> return;
>
> + if (!static_branch_likely(&random_vdso_is_ready))
> + return;
> +
> WRITE_ONCE(vdso_k_rng_data->is_ready, true);
> }
>
> @@ -925,6 +932,9 @@ void __init random_init(void)
> _mix_pool_bytes(&entropy, sizeof(entropy));
> add_latent_entropy();
>
> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VDSO_GETRANDOM))
> + static_branch_enable(&random_vdso_is_ready);
> +
> /*
> * If we were initialized by the cpu or bootloader before jump labels
> * or workqueues are initialized, then we should enable the static
> @@ -934,8 +944,10 @@ void __init random_init(void)
> crng_set_ready(NULL);
>
> /* Reseed if already seeded by earlier phases. */
> - if (crng_ready())
> + if (crng_ready()) {
> crng_reseed(NULL);
> + random_vdso_set_ready();
> + }
The fact that the vdso datapage is set up by the time random_init() is
called seems incredibly contingent on init details. Why not, instead,
make this a necessary part of the structure of vdso setup code, which
can actually know about what happens when? For example, one clean way of
doing that would be to make vdso_k_rng_data always valid by having it
initially point to __initdata memory, and then when it's time to
initialize the real datapage, memcpy() the __initdata memory to the new
specially allocated memory. Then we don't need the complex state
tracking that this commit and the prior one introduce.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-07 23:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-06 10:01 [PATCH v5 00/34] sparc64: vdso: Switch to the generic vDSO library Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 01/34] selftests: vDSO: vdso_test_correctness: Handle different tv_usec types Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 02/34] arm64: vDSO: getrandom: Explicitly include asm/alternative.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 03/34] arm64: vDSO: gettimeofday: Explicitly include vdso/clocksource.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 04/34] arm64: vDSO: compat_gettimeofday: Add explicit includes Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 05/34] ARM: vdso: gettimeofday: " Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 06/34] powerpc/vdso/gettimeofday: Explicitly include vdso/time32.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 07/34] powerpc/vdso: Explicitly include asm/cputable.h and asm/feature-fixups.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 08/34] LoongArch: vDSO: Explicitly include asm/vdso/vdso.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 09/34] MIPS: vdso: Add include guard to asm/vdso/vdso.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 10/34] MIPS: vdso: Explicitly include asm/vdso/vdso.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 11/34] random: vDSO: Add explicit includes Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-07 23:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 12/34] vdso/gettimeofday: " Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 13/34] vdso/helpers: Explicitly include vdso/processor.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 14/34] vdso/datapage: Remove inclusion of gettimeofday.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 15/34] vdso/datapage: Trim down unnecessary includes Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 16/34] random: vDSO: trim vDSO includes Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-07 23:49 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-08 0:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 17/34] random: vDSO: remove ifdeffery Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-07 23:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-10 8:45 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 18/34] random: vDSO: split out datapage update into helper functions Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 19/34] random: vDSO: only access vDSO datapage after random_init() Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-07 23:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2025-11-10 9:04 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-10 10:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-10 11:24 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-10 11:40 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-11 8:55 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 20/34] s390/time: Set up vDSO datapage later Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 21/34] vdso/datastore: Reduce scope of some variables in vvar_fault() Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 22/34] vdso/datastore: Drop inclusion of linux/mmap_lock.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 23/34] vdso/datastore: Allocate data pages dynamically Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 24/34] sparc64: vdso: Link with -z noexecstack Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 25/34] sparc64: vdso: Remove obsolete "fake section table" reservation Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 26/34] sparc64: vdso: Replace code patching with runtime conditional Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 27/34] sparc64: vdso: Move hardware counter read into header Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 28/34] sparc64: vdso: Move syscall fallbacks " Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 29/34] sparc64: vdso: Introduce vdso/processor.h Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 30/34] sparc64: vdso: Switch to the generic vDSO library Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 31/34] sparc64: vdso2c: Drop sym_vvar_start handling Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 32/34] sparc64: vdso2c: Remove symbol handling Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 33/34] sparc64: vdso: Implement clock_gettime64() Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v5 34/34] clocksource: remove ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_DATA Thomas Weißschuh
2025-11-06 12:55 ` [PATCH v5 00/34] sparc64: vdso: Switch to the generic vDSO library Aithal, Srikanth
2025-11-06 14:02 ` Mark Brown
2025-11-06 17:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-08 0:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-11-08 10:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-09 3:23 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-11-09 16:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-01-16 12:10 ` Thomas Weißschuh
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