From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
skhan@linuxfoundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:40:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afyWXIsqqgMpxVIb@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2026050739-football-dreamy-351f@gregkh>
On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 12:47:43PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
>On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 03:05:45AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> When a (security) issue goes public, fleets stay exposed until a patched kernel
>> is built, distributed, and rebooted into.
>>
>> For many such issues the simplest mitigation is to stop calling the buggy
>> function. Killswitch provides that. An admin writes:
>>
>> echo "engage af_alg_sendmsg -1" \
>> > /sys/kernel/security/killswitch/control
>>
>> After this, af_alg_sendmsg() returns -EPERM on every call without
>> running its body. The mitigation takes effect immediately, and is dropped on
>> the next reboot.
>>
>> A lot of recent kernel issues sit in code paths most installs only have enabled
>> to support a relative minority of users: AF_ALG, ksmbd, nf_tables, vsock, ax25,
>> and friends.
>>
>> For most users, the cost of "this socket family stops working for the day" is
>> much smaller than the cost of running a known vulnerable kernel until the fix
>> land.
>>
>> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-7
>> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
>
>This is kind of funny, but understandable. Odds are a distro would want
>to pick this up so that they can enable this for when their kernel
>updates do not get out to users quick enough.
I figure that even if the new kernel does go out in a timely manner, there are
still days (weeks? months?) between when a new kernel is available and when the
user reboots.
Might as well try and improve their chances of survival during that period :)
>One question:
>
>> +struct ks_attr {
>> + struct list_head list;
>> + struct kprobe kp;
>> + atomic_long_t retval;
>
>Why is this an atomic value? Shouldn't it be whatever the userspace
>return type is?
The return register is `long` on every arch.
While testing this, I added the ability to modify the return value after we
create a killswitch, and figured that it could be a useful thing to keep in the
code.
But then I got worried about a race between a user changing the return value of
the killswitch and some program trying to execute the code, and getting some
combination of the old and the new return value.
Is that a real concern? I'm not sure - but making this atomic was cheap enough.
>> + /* false once disengaged; per-fn file ops then return -EIDRM. */
>> + bool engaged;
>> + unsigned long __percpu *hits;
>> + struct dentry *dir;
>> + /* engaged_list holds one ref; each open per-fn fd holds one. */
>> + refcount_t refcnt;
>
>Why is a refcnt needed? Why not use a kref instead?
Ugh... no good reason, I can switch to a kref.
--
Thanks,
Sasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-07 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-07 7:05 [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 10:47 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 13:40 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-05-07 16:23 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-08 13:44 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 15:40 ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-08 15:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:13 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:23 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:54 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-08 21:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 23:49 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-09 0:15 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-09 0:36 ` Andrew Morton
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