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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:40:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afyWXIsqqgMpxVIb@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2026050739-football-dreamy-351f@gregkh>

On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 12:47:43PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
>On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 03:05:45AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> When a (security) issue goes public, fleets stay exposed until a patched kernel
>> is built, distributed, and rebooted into.
>>
>> For many such issues the simplest mitigation is to stop calling the buggy
>> function. Killswitch provides that. An admin writes:
>>
>>     echo "engage af_alg_sendmsg -1" \
>>         > /sys/kernel/security/killswitch/control
>>
>> After this, af_alg_sendmsg() returns -EPERM on every call without
>> running its body. The mitigation takes effect immediately, and is dropped on
>> the next reboot.
>>
>> A lot of recent kernel issues sit in code paths most installs only have enabled
>> to support a relative minority of users: AF_ALG, ksmbd, nf_tables, vsock, ax25,
>> and friends.
>>
>> For most users, the cost of "this socket family stops working for the day" is
>> much smaller than the cost of running a known vulnerable kernel until the fix
>> land.
>>
>> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-7
>> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
>
>This is kind of funny, but understandable.  Odds are a distro would want
>to pick this up so that they can enable this for when their kernel
>updates do not get out to users quick enough.

I figure that even if the new kernel does go out in a timely manner, there are
still days (weeks? months?) between when a new kernel is available and when the
user reboots.

Might as well try and improve their chances of survival during that period :)

>One question:
>
>> +struct ks_attr {
>> +	struct list_head	list;
>> +	struct kprobe		kp;
>> +	atomic_long_t		retval;
>
>Why is this an atomic value?  Shouldn't it be whatever the userspace
>return type is?

The return register is `long` on every arch.

While testing this, I added the ability to modify the return value after we
create a killswitch, and figured that it could be a useful thing to keep in the
code.

But then I got worried about a race between a user changing the return value of
the killswitch and some program trying to execute the code, and getting some
combination of the old and the new return value.

Is that a real concern? I'm not sure - but making this atomic was cheap enough.

>> +	/* false once disengaged; per-fn file ops then return -EIDRM. */
>> +	bool			engaged;
>> +	unsigned long __percpu	*hits;
>> +	struct dentry		*dir;
>> +	/* engaged_list holds one ref; each open per-fn fd holds one. */
>> +	refcount_t		refcnt;
>
>Why is a refcnt needed?  Why not use a kref instead?

Ugh... no good reason, I can switch to a kref.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-07  7:05 [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 10:47 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 13:40   ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-05-07 16:23     ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-08 13:44   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 15:40 ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-08 15:48   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:13     ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:18       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:23         ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:54             ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-08 21:47   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 23:49     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-09  0:15       ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-09  0:36         ` Andrew Morton

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