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From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Leon Hwang <leon.hwang@linux.dev>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ftrace: enable single ftrace_ops for direct calls
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 12:58:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amsuU7eXuoziObdh@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d745ca80-6516-4c61-8107-88c6a2d9cea4@linux.dev>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 11:05:42AM +0800, Leon Hwang wrote:
> On 29/7/26 19:56, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 10:28:43PM +0800, Leon Hwang wrote:
> >> The BPF tracing multi link updates several direct-call sites through one
> >> ftrace_ops. Its implementation is therefore gated by
> >> HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS in addition to
> >> DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_DIRECT_CALLS.
> >>
> >> Select HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS whenever arm64 enables dynamic ftrace
> >> direct calls. This enables BPF tracing multi links on arm64. Also
> >> generalize the unreachable-trampoline comment because the single-ops path
> >> does not use ops->direct_call.
> > 
> > hi,
> > iirc arm needs ops->direct_call for trampolines to work properly,
> > that's the reason we enabled single ftrace_ops on x86 only:
> > 
> >   424f6a361096 bpf,x86: Use single ftrace_ops for direct calls
> > 
> > I don't understand the arm usage of op->direct_call, but it looks like
> > (codex thinks) that the fast path won't always work without op->direct_call
> > being set
> 
> 
> In theory, op->direct_call is the fallback for the case:
> HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_CALL_OPS=y, out-of-range target, and non-BPF
> direct ops. This is what Codex thinks about.
> 
> However, after searching the call sites of
> register_ftrace_direct()/__modify_ftrace_direct() in kernel, which would
> set ops->direct_call, the actual callers are in bpf/trampoline.c, which
> have been gated with HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS. That said, for
> normal usage of HAVE_SINGLE_FTRACE_DIRECT_OPS=y, op->direct_call is unused.
> 
> If someone uses register_ftrace_direct() or
> modify_ftrace_direct/_nolock() outside BPF in the future,
> op->direct_call will be used.

so any 2nd user on the same function triggers the slow path,
and that's fine, the single_ops handles slow path correctly

but IIUC the out-of-range target will now always go through slow path,
which in current code it doesn't, right?

jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-27 14:28 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: ftrace: enable single ftrace_ops for direct calls Leon Hwang
2026-07-27 14:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Leon Hwang
2026-07-29 11:56   ` Jiri Olsa
2026-07-30  3:05     ` Leon Hwang
2026-07-30 10:58       ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2026-07-27 14:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/bpf: Enable tracing_multi tests on arm64 Leon Hwang

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