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From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
Cc: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 5/9] net/tls: Consume empty data records in tls_sw_recvmsg()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 14:40:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amtGINRBf2NTqt_J@krikkit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260726-tls-follow-on-v1-5-99bf4cc1c729@kernel.org>

2026-07-26, 20:33:33 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> TLS 1.2 and TLS 1.3 both permit zero-length application_data
> records as a traffic-analysis countermeasure (RFC 5246, Section
> 6.2.1; RFC 8446, Section 5.1). Such a record decrypts to
> full_len == 0, so every arm of the receive loop reaches
> "decrypted += chunk" and "len -= chunk" with chunk == 0: len
> never reaches zero, and tls_strp_msg_ready() holds the second
> loop term true while the peer keeps records arriving. The peek
> arm and the async arm also queue each record on rx_list, which
> then grows without bound. tls_rx_rec_wait() returns without
> waiting whenever a record is already parsed, so its signal check
> never runs

So we should just move the signal check to the top of
tls_rx_rec_wait()'s loop? (just after all the existing error handling
code)

Then we don't need to add custom code everywhere, and we don't need to
do that much special handling for 0-length records.

> and no other test in the loop consults
> signal_pending(). A peer streaming empty records therefore holds
> the caller in recvmsg(), unresponsive to SIGKILL, until it stops.
> 

[...]
> +		/* An empty record advances neither loop bound, so a flood
> +		 * of them can be interrupted only here. On the zero-copy
> +		 * path darg.skb is the strparser anchor, already released
> +		 * by tls_rx_rec_done().
> +		 */
> +		if (tls_rx_empty_data_rec(chunk, control)) {
> +			long timeo = sock_rcvtimeo(sk, flags & MSG_DONTWAIT);
> +
> +			if (!darg.zc)
> +				consume_skb(darg.skb);

I don't see why you need this special handling. Could you explain that?

> +			/* An empty record still marks a boundary. */
> +			msg->msg_flags |= MSG_EOR;

(note: I know that ship has sailed)

I don't think the way ktls handles MSG_EOR on RX makes any sense,
outside of non-DATA records. For non-DATA records, we only ever
process one per call, so it works out.

For DATA records, We set MSG_EOR when we process the end of a record,
and then we process part of the next record. MSG_EOR is still set,
eventhough we're not finishing the read at a record
boundary. Userspace has no way of knowing where that record boundary
was, or how many there may have been.

-- 
Sabrina

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-27  0:33 [PATCH net 0/9] net/tls: Receive-path fixes for zero-length data records Chuck Lever
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 1/9] net/tls: Bound time spent on no-data records in tls_sw_read_sock() Chuck Lever
2026-07-30  9:12   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-07-30 13:05     ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 2/9] net/tls: Consume empty data records in tls_sw_splice_read() Chuck Lever
2026-07-30 10:38   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 3/9] net/tls: Fail tls_sw_splice_read() after a failed async decrypt Chuck Lever
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 4/9] net/tls: Honor O_NONBLOCK in tls_sw_splice_read() Chuck Lever
2026-07-30 10:59   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 5/9] net/tls: Consume empty data records in tls_sw_recvmsg() Chuck Lever
2026-07-30 12:40   ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 6/9] selftests: tls: add peek and splice coverage for zero-length records Chuck Lever
2026-07-27 14:07   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 7/9] selftests: tls: skip the zero_len tests when TLS is unavailable Chuck Lever
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 8/9] selftests: tls: cover splice on a nonblocking socket Chuck Lever
2026-07-27  0:33 ` [PATCH net 9/9] selftests: tls: cover splice after a failed decrypt Chuck Lever
2026-07-27 15:19   ` Sabrina Dubroca

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