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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	 Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>,  Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Bischoff <Sascha.Bischoff@arm.com>,
	 Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Jack Allister <jalliste@amazon.com>,
	 Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>,
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	 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 31/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK_GUEST for accurate KVM clock migration
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 16:40:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anuy6QxUVLcSSVCn@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260728144954.355376-32-dwmw2@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> index 5c78dd1e4c69..0680332d7d45 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> @@ -3435,6 +3435,169 @@ static int kvm_vcpu_ioctl_enable_cap(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>  	}
>  }
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
> +static int kvm_vcpu_ioctl_get_clock_guest(struct kvm_vcpu *v, void __user *argp)
> +{
> +	struct pvclock_vcpu_time_info hv_clock = {};
> +	struct kvm_vcpu_arch *vcpu = &v->arch;
> +	struct kvm_arch *ka = &v->kvm->arch;
> +	unsigned int seq;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * If KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE is already pending, or if the pvclock
> +	 * has never been generated at all, call kvm_guest_time_update().
> +	 */
> +	if (kvm_check_request(KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE, v) || !vcpu->hw_tsc_hz) {
> +		int idx = srcu_read_lock(&v->kvm->srcu);
> +		int ret = kvm_guest_time_update(v);

Invoking kvm_guest_time_update() here is probably a deal-breaker.  Updating the
master clock and other internal state is far from ideal, but should be ok.

However, writing guest memory is not.  Specifically, dirtying memory after the
last KVM_RUN is a non-starter for many usecases, as is modifying state that is
visible via other GET uAPI (though I don't think that applies here?).  E.g. see
commits:

  118964562969 ("KVM: Mark a vCPU as preempted/ready iff it's scheduled out while running")
  e800decd9c0a ("KVM: x86: Only reset TSC Deadline Timer in apic_timer_expired on KVM_RUN")

One idea would be to simply punt to userspace, i.e. return -EBUSY without trying
to update guest time.  Which is pretty darn ugly, but might be tolerable?  And a
slightly crazy idea to lessen the pain would be to process select requests in
KVM_RUN before bailing for vcpu->run->immediate_exit==true.

That doesn't completely solve things as it's still possible for KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE
to be set after KVM_RUN, but I think they're mutually exlusive with the majority
of relevant use cases?  And we'd probably want to build on my idea to report that
KVM_RUN needs completion[*], but that'd be a good thing overall.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250111012450.1262638-1-seanjc@google.com 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-28 14:39 [PATCH v7 00/36] Cleaning up the KVM clock mess David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 01/36] KVM: x86: Improve accuracy of KVM clock when TSC scaling is in force David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 02/36] KVM: x86: Explicitly disable TSC scaling without CONSTANT_TSC David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 03/36] KVM: x86: Activate master clock immediately on vCPU creation David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 04/36] KVM: x86: Avoid NTP frequency skew for KVM clock on 32-bit host David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 05/36] KVM: x86: Fold __get_kvmclock() into get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 23:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 06/36] KVM: x86: Drop CPU pinning in get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 07/36] KVM: x86: Restructure get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 23:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 08/36] KVM: x86: Fix KVM clock precision in get_kvmclock() with TSC scaling David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 09/36] KVM: x86: Use get_kvmclock() in kvm_get_wall_clock_epoch() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 10/36] KVM: x86: Fix compute_guest_tsc() to handle negative time deltas David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 11/36] KVM: x86: Restructure kvm_guest_time_update() for TSC upscaling David Woodhouse
2026-08-04  1:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 12/36] KVM: x86: Simplify and comment kvm_get_time_scale() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 13/36] KVM: x86: Remove implicit rdtsc() from kvm_compute_l1_tsc_offset() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 14/36] KVM: x86: Improve synchronization in kvm_synchronize_tsc() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 15/36] KVM: x86: Kill last_tsc_{nsec,write,offset} fields David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 16/36] KVM: x86: Replace nr_vcpus_matched_tsc count with all_vcpus_matched_tsc bool David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 17/36] KVM: x86: Allow KVM master clock mode when TSCs are offset from each other David Woodhouse
2026-08-10 17:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-10 18:20     ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-10 20:56       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-10 21:05         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:16           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 14:33             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 15:05               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:40                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 17:18                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:28                     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 17:32                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:41                         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 21:00                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 21:46                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 21:56                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 23:14                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 18/36] KVM: x86: Factor out kvm_use_master_clock() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:39 ` [PATCH v7 19/36] KVM: x86: Avoid gratuitous global clock updates David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 20/36] KVM: x86/xen: Prevent runstate times from becoming negative David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 21/36] KVM: x86: Avoid redundant masterclock updates from multiple vCPUs David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 22/36] KVM: x86: Remove runtime Xen TSC frequency CPUID update David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 23/36] KVM: x86: Re-synchronize TSC after KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 24/36] KVM: x86: Use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for master clock David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 25/36] KVM: x86: Compute kvmclock base without pvclock_gtod_data David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 26/36] KVM: x86: Cache host vclock_mode for masterclock eligibility checks David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 27/36] KVM: x86: Remove pvclock_gtod_data and private timekeeping code David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 28/36] KVM: x86: Activate master clock from kvm_arch_init_vm() David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 29/36] UAPI: x86: Move pvclock-abi to UAPI for x86 platforms David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 30/36] KVM: selftests: Use UAPI pvclock-abi.h in xen_shinfo_test David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 31/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK_GUEST for accurate KVM clock migration David Woodhouse
2026-07-31 23:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-01  8:07     ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-04 23:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-05  9:26         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 23:40   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-08-11 23:47     ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 32/36] KVM: x86: Add KVM_VCPU_TSC_SCALE and fix the documentation on TSC migration David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 33/36] KVM: selftests: Add KVM/PV clock selftest to prove timer correction David Woodhouse
2026-07-31 23:32   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 34/36] KVM: selftests: Add master clock offset test David Woodhouse
2026-07-31 23:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 35/36] KVM: selftests: Add Xen/generic CPUID timing leaf test David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 36/36] KVM: selftests: Add Xen runstate migration test David Woodhouse
2026-07-28 23:18 ` [PATCH v7 00/36] Cleaning up the KVM clock mess Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29 10:42   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-10 16:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-10 16:56   ` David Woodhouse

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