From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "ripatel@wii.dev" <ripatel@wii.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/shstk: ban ia32 sigreturn when shadow stack is enabled
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 22:14:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb352ccd1939c6e01f1e71a12fc457b8051bc04a.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asjRt49FfzdP4pxk@wii.dev>
On Fri, 2026-10-09 at 11:36 +0000, Richard Patel wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 08, 2026 at 11:11:41PM +0000, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Thu, 2026-10-08 at 22:47 +0000, Richard Patel wrote:
> > > > But today setting EIP to an arbitrary point is fairly easy. But even in a
> > > > future
> > > > case of IBT enabled, shadow stack would still need enhancements for the
> > > > normal
> > > > 64 bit runtime to prevent this.
> > >
> > > What do you think of creating a shadow stack frame on signal delivery
> > > and popping that on sigreturn? I suppose that would need siglongjmp
> > > modifications and probably break CRIU. :(
> >
> > Yes I didn't know they did not parse the shadow stack signal frame
> > appropriately. That is unfortunate. But we can still evolve the shadow stack ABI
> > by adding new modes to the enable prctl if we want.
>
> In the case of CRIU, they are not only parsing
>
Ah so the parsing is right, but they don't add the extra frames?
> , but crafting their own
> frames on the shadow stack. I suppose we can keep the kernel's parser
> lenient so it works with older CRIU frames even after IBT enablement.
Yea we would need a backwards compatible frame. The real sigframes have the same
problems to solve.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-09 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-08 20:16 [PATCH 0/3] x86/shstk: ban ia32 sigreturn Richard Patel
2026-10-08 20:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/shstk: ban ia32 sigreturn when shadow stack is enabled Richard Patel
2026-10-08 20:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 21:50 ` Richard Patel
2026-10-08 22:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 22:47 ` Richard Patel
2026-10-08 23:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 23:29 ` Richard Patel
2026-10-09 11:36 ` Richard Patel
2026-10-09 22:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-10-08 20:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] selftests/x86: test shadow stack sigreturn protection Richard Patel
2026-10-08 20:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] selftests/x86: skip shstk tests where perf_event_open() fails Richard Patel
2026-10-08 21:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86/shstk: ban ia32 sigreturn Edgecombe, Rick P
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