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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 14/41] mm: swap: Introduce lru_add_drain_progressive()
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2026 23:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be77c2cb-6e41-4382-9d2f-cd299f634196@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60552bee-3326-4917-b00f-5fb7ba3b8adb@kernel.org>

On 7/31/26 16:09, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 7/31/26 15:03, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>> "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> And looking at it, the current folio_ref_count() in GUP is entirely wrong
>>> and always makes us drain local+all.
>>>
>>> Let me fix that first, which will also modify this code.
>>>
>>> I'd say, to unblock gmem we could have something minimal that I would clean
>>> up later, but I think the problem is that lru_add_drain() / lru_add_drain_all()
>>> is not exported, right?
>>>
>>
>> My bad, I totally mixed up refcounting to drain with refcounting for the
>> safe conversion and didn't have a complete understanding of mlock().
>>
>> The problem for gmem was that if there was an elevated refcount on some
>> folio in the range, it might be because the folio was in the lru_add
>> fbatch.
> 
> Right.
> 
>>
>> If it were in the lru_add fbatch, it would be fine to just drain the
>> lru_add fbatch and proceed with the conversion.
>>
>> lru_add_drain() isn't sufficient since the conversion might be handled
>> on one CPU when the folio is on another CPU's fbatch, so I had to do
>> lru_add_drain_all(), but lru_add_drain_all() causes IPIs which are
>> expensive.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> You should probably do an early
> 
> folio_maybe_dma_pinned() || folio_mapped() check and just return -- don't drain.
> 
>>
>> In an earlier revision I exported lru_add_drain_all(). My understanding
>> of the discussion at guest_memfd biweekly was that Sean didn't want us
>> to export lru_add_drain_all() now, and then end up exporting some other
>> function and unexporting lru_add_drain_all(). To avoid exporting and
>> unexporting, we then said we should refactor now.
>>
>> Happy to go with your proposal too.
> Yeah, I have to look into this more closely. I'm now convinced that we really
> have to use the refcount for now, but hopefully we can limit it on
> folio_expected_refcount() internally + additional references
> from the caller.
> 
> I'm quite busy today, but let me flesh something out that actually works.
> 

Sorry for being rather grumpy previously, I know you only mean good :)


I sent a fix for the GUP code that always makes us drain right now:

https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260731-check_and_migrate_movable_folios-v1-1-e0002d7b791e@kernel.org

Would the following (agains mm-unstable + fix) work for you?


I assume that you'd have to call it as

	lru_cache_drain_for_folio(folio, 0, NULL);

But maybe there are indeed extra references that are not reflected in
folio_expected_ref_count() that you would have to consider? I doubt it, but please check if
there would be a problem.

There is a small problem for merging:

(1) The patch depends on the fix.

(2) mm/swap.c was moved to mm/folio.c in the mm tree.

We could write what I have below against Linus' tree and have the conflict be resolved
when merging. Topic branches are unfortunately not yet a thing in MM land.


From 9e8d49ca4e77b1f843cc0113af1cc92274193399 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2026 12:08:13 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] mm/gup: factor out LRU cache draining for folio into
 lru_cache_drain_for_folio()

KVM with guest_memfd wants to remove any folio references due to LRU
caches, as it really must only allow to convert folios from shared to
private when there are no unexpected folio references (e.g., from GUP
references).

So, to drive the refcount down, it needs a way to flush the LRU caches.
Let's factor out what we have in lru_cache_drain_for_folio(),

Maybe there is a chance to avoid the draining entirely in the future,
by avoiding extra references from the LRU cache: Hugh thinks there might
be a way. But for the time being, this handling is unfortunately
required.

Make folio_may_be_lru_cached() accept a const pointer so
lru_cache_drain_for_folio() can accept a const pointer as well.

Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
---
 include/linux/swap.h |  8 ++++++++
 mm/folio.c           | 46 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 mm/gup.c             | 15 ++-------------
 mm/internal.h        |  2 +-
 4 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
index 0544b2ec4c565..733b84e0bce43 100644
--- a/include/linux/swap.h
+++ b/include/linux/swap.h
@@ -298,6 +298,14 @@ void folio_add_lru(struct folio *folio);
 void folio_mark_accessed(struct folio *folio);
 void lru_add_drain_all(void);

+enum lru_cache_drained {
+	LRU_CACHE_NOT_DRAINED,
+	LRU_CACHE_DRAINED,
+	LRU_CACHE_DRAINED_ALL,
+};
+void lru_cache_drain_for_folio(const struct folio *folio,
+		unsigned int extra_refs, enum lru_cache_drained *drained);
+
 /* linux/mm/folio-compat.c */
 void mark_page_accessed(struct page *page);

diff --git a/mm/folio.c b/mm/folio.c
index d2937600cf726..a41d107b8b28a 100644
--- a/mm/folio.c
+++ b/mm/folio.c
@@ -948,6 +948,52 @@ void lru_add_drain_all(void)
 }
 #endif /* CONFIG_SMP */

+/**
+ * lru_cache_drain_for_folio() - drain LRU caches if the folio might have
+ *				 references from the caches
+ * @folio: The folio.
+ * @extra_refs: Extra folio references held by the caller.
+ * @drained: Drain status for batch folio processing.
+ *
+ * Drain LRU caches if the folio might be referenced by these caches, such
+ * that e.g., later page migration will not fail due to them. Start with a
+ * local LRU cache drain, to then drain LRU caches on all CPUs if local
+ * draining was insufficient.
+ *
+ * This function detects LRU cache references by comparing the folio refcount
+ * with the sum of the expected folio refcount + extra references held by the
+ * caller. Note that we cannot rely on PG_lru to reliably detect all LRU
+ * cache references.
+ *
+ * If @drained is not NULL, the function will avoid re-draining LRU caches
+ * when processing multiple folios in a row. In that case, the value
+ * @drained points to must be initialized to LRU_CACHE_NOT_DRAINED before
+ * the first invocation, to keep passing @drained to successive invocations.
+ */
+void lru_cache_drain_for_folio(const struct folio *folio,
+		unsigned int extra_refs, enum lru_cache_drained *drained)
+{
+	const int expected_refs = folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + extra_refs;
+
+	if (!folio_may_be_lru_cached(folio))
+		return;
+
+	if (!drained || *drained == LRU_CACHE_NOT_DRAINED) {
+		if (folio_ref_count(folio) == expected_refs)
+			return;
+		lru_add_drain();
+		if (drained)
+			*drained = LRU_CACHE_DRAINED;
+	}
+	if (!drained || *drained == LRU_CACHE_DRAINED) {
+		if (folio_ref_count(folio) == expected_refs)
+			return;
+		lru_add_drain_all();
+		if (drained)
+			*drained = LRU_CACHE_DRAINED_ALL;
+	}
+}
+
 atomic_t lru_disable_count = ATOMIC_INIT(0);

 /*
diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
index 41c3317e0f0f4..297e7de81c374 100644
--- a/mm/gup.c
+++ b/mm/gup.c
@@ -2266,9 +2266,9 @@ static unsigned long collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios(
 		struct list_head *movable_folio_list,
 		struct pages_or_folios *pofs)
 {
+	enum lru_cache_drained drained = LRU_CACHE_NOT_DRAINED;
 	unsigned long collected = 0;
 	struct folio *folio;
-	int drained = 0;
 	long i = 0;

 	for (folio = pofs_get_folio(pofs, i); folio;
@@ -2293,18 +2293,7 @@ static unsigned long collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios(
 		 * but also to remove any other folio references from LRU
 		 * caches.
 		 */
-		if (drained == 0 && folio_may_be_lru_cached(folio) &&
-				folio_ref_count(folio) !=
-				folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + pin_refs) {
-			lru_add_drain();
-			drained = 1;
-		}
-		if (drained == 1 && folio_may_be_lru_cached(folio) &&
-				folio_ref_count(folio) !=
-				folio_expected_ref_count(folio) + pin_refs) {
-			lru_add_drain_all();
-			drained = 2;
-		}
+		lru_cache_drain_for_folio(folio, pin_refs, &drained);

 		if (!folio_isolate_lru(folio))
 			continue;
diff --git a/mm/internal.h b/mm/internal.h
index f26423de4ca28..7aa787768353a 100644
--- a/mm/internal.h
+++ b/mm/internal.h
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ void lru_note_cost_unlock_irq(struct lruvec *lruvec, bool file,
 void lru_note_cost_refault(struct folio *folio);
 void folio_add_lru_vma(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma);

-static inline bool folio_may_be_lru_cached(struct folio *folio)
+static inline bool folio_may_be_lru_cached(const struct folio *folio)
 {
 	/*
 	 * Holding PMD-sized folios in per-CPU LRU cache unbalances accounting.
-- 
2.43.0


-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-31 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-29  0:34 [PATCH v9 00/41] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 01/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-31  8:57   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 02/41] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 03/41] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30  9:57   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-30 20:34     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 04/41] KVM: Rename memory attribute APIs to prepare for in-place gmem conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30  8:19   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 05/41] KVM: Provide generic interface for checking memory private/shared status Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 06/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce function to check GFN " Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 07/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Wire up core private/shared attribute interfaces Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30 11:05   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-30 20:42     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 23:49       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 08/41] KVM: Consolidate private memory and guest_memfd ifdeffery in kvm_host.h Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 09/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Filter both shared and private when invalidating Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 10/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Add base support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30 22:22   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 22:26   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 11/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Ensure pages are not in use before conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 12/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Call arch make_shared callback for to-shared conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30 10:35   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 13/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Return early if range already has requested attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30 22:31   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 14/41] mm: swap: Introduce lru_add_drain_progressive() Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-30 10:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-30 22:20     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 10:22       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 11:59         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 13:03           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 14:09             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 21:04               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 15/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle lru_add fbatch refcounts during conversion safety check Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 16/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Zero page while getting pfn Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-31  8:49   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 17/41] KVM: SEV: Make 'uaddr' parameter optional for KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 18/41] KVM: TDX: Make source page optional for KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-31  8:26   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 19/41] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 20/41] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-31  8:48   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 21/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 22/41] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 23/41] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 24/41] KVM: selftests: Add support for mmap() on guest_memfd in core library Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 25/41] KVM: selftests: Add selftests global for guest memory attributes capability Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 26/41] KVM: selftests: Add helpers for calling ioctls on guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 27/41] KVM: selftests: Test basic single-page conversion flow Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 28/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion flow when INIT_SHARED Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 29/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion precision in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 30/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion before allocation Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 31/41] KVM: selftests: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 32/41] KVM: selftests: Test that truncation does not change shared/private status Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 33/41] KVM: selftests: Test that shared/private status is consistent across processes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 34/41] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to pin pages with CONFIG_GUP_TEST Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 35/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion with elevated page refcount Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 36/41] KVM: selftests: Reset shared memory after hole-punching Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 37/41] KVM: selftests: Provide function to look up guest_memfd details from gpa Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 38/41] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 39/41] KVM: selftests: Make TEST_EXPECT_SIGBUS thread-safe Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 40/41] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test to mmap() guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29  0:35 ` [PATCH v9 41/41] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test to work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay

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