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From: Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>
To: "Alexis Lothoré" <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com>,
	"Jiayuan Chen" <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Emil Tsalapatis" <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>
Cc: ebpf@linuxfoundation.org,
	Bastien Curutchet <bastien.curutchet@bootlin.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v3 1/2] selftests/bpf: keep polling connection that is still in progress
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2026 09:17:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccb6879a-b568-4bc1-b7ec-bb3196135d73@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DKNN0WMD9XW8.MCJAMGS5NPYR@bootlin.com>

On 2026-08-13 12:29 a.m., Alexis Lothoré wrote:
> Hi Ihor,
> thanks for the extensive investigation
> 
> On Wed Aug 12, 2026 at 8:46 PM CEST, Ihor Solodrai wrote:
>> On 8/11/26 9:25 AM, Alexis Lothoré wrote:
>>> On Tue Aug 11, 2026 at 5:05 PM CEST, Jiayuan Chen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/11/26 10:26 PM, Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation) wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
>> An entirely different alternative that Eduard brought up in an
>> off-list discussion, is to drop all the timeout machinery from
>> network_helpers.c altogether, and rely solely on the test_progs
>> watchdog to kill the subtest processes: d9d4d127e813 ("selftests/bpf:
>> watchdog timer for test_progs")
>>
>> I am not convinced it's a good idea, because I don't know what will
>> happen with all the tc_* tests if there is no connection timeouts. If
>> you're interested, you could try it and see.
> 
> Hmmm, I'm not very familiar with this mechanism, but aside from the
> potential issues you are mentioning, wouldn't it make us loose a bit of
> info here, when the watchdog kicks the runner out ? We may know from the
> stacktrace that the subtest was in connect(), but we would loose any
> formal error/errno on connection timeout I guess, and I am not sure how
> confident we can get about any watchdog kick being a connect timeout.

That's a good point. The watchdog is the killer of last resort,
we should report proper errors whenever possible, I agree.

> 
>>> That potentially brings back part of the issues he has been mentioning
>>> with selftests duration possibly increasing by a non negligeable amount,
>>> but maybe 1s is a better compromise, compared to my initial 3s proposal
>>> ?
>>>
> 
> 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-13 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11 14:26 [PATCH bpf v3 0/2] selftest/bpf: make test_tc_tunnel and test_tc_edt more robust to CI load Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-08-11 14:26 ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/2] selftests/bpf: keep polling connection that is still in progress Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-08-11 15:05   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-08-11 16:25     ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-08-12 18:46       ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-08-13  7:29         ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-08-13 16:17           ` Ihor Solodrai [this message]
2026-08-11 15:30   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-11 16:01     ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-08-11 14:26 ` [PATCH bpf v3 2/2] selftests/bpf: add connect timeout to test_tc_edt Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)

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