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From: Wilfred Mallawa <wilfred.opensource@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 1/2] net/tls: support setting the maximum payload size
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 18:50:19 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d52862c17afab501453c3fbb5167f78d24b1f807.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251024163336.5fba5cd1@kernel.org>

On Fri, 2025-10-24 at 16:33 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 12:11:11 +1000 Wilfred Mallawa wrote:
> > In the previous record_size_limit approach for TLS 1.3, we need to
> > account for the ContentType byte. Which complicates
> > get/setsockopt()
> > and tls_get_info(), where in setsockopt() for TLS 1.3 we need to
> > subtract 1 to the user provided value and in getsockopt() we need
> > add 1
> > to keep the symmetry between the two (similarly in tls_get_info()).
> > The
> > underlying assumption was that userspace passes up directly what
> > the
> > endpoint specified as the record_size_limit.
> > 
> > With this approach we don't need to worry about it and we can pass
> > the
> > responsibility to user-space as documented, which I think makes the
> > kernel code simpler.
> 
> But we haven't managed to avoid that completely:
> 
> +	if (value < TLS_MIN_RECORD_SIZE_LIM - (tls_13 ? 1 : 0) ||
> 
> I understand the motivation, the kernel code is indeed simpler.
> 
> Last night I read the RFC and then this patch, and it took me like
> 10min to get all of it straight in my head. Maybe I was tried but
> I feel like the user space developers will judge us harshly for 
> the current uAPI.

I am open to reverting this to `record_size_limit` in that case. I
think the only trade off is just a bit more complexity in the kernel
side for the additional checks. Does that sound good to you
Jakub/Sabrina?

Regards,
Wilfred

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-26  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-22  0:19 [PATCH net-next v8 1/2] net/tls: support setting the maximum payload size Wilfred Mallawa
2025-10-22  0:19 ` [PATCH net-next v8 2/2] selftests: tls: add tls record_size_limit test Wilfred Mallawa
2025-10-22 21:51   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-10-22 21:51 ` [PATCH net-next v8 1/2] net/tls: support setting the maximum payload size Sabrina Dubroca
2025-10-24  1:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-24  2:11   ` Wilfred Mallawa
2025-10-24 23:33     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-26  8:50       ` Wilfred Mallawa [this message]
2025-10-27 11:32       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-10-27 23:13         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-27 23:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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