linux-leds.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <ibm-acpi@hmh.eng.br>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] leds: triggers: Add a keyboard backlight trigger
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:58:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161122145825.GS13735@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff098b73-202a-200b-5c84-e96d33199d54@samsung.com>

On Monday 21 November 2016 14:29:00 Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> Let's wait until every involved part agrees (Pavel, Pali).

Ok, I read that discussion on linux-leds ML and finally understand
motivation and results.

Personally I still do not like current approach and big problem what I
see is that I was not able to understand *why* introduction of
current_brightness is needed and how userspace application should use
it, before I read whole that linux-leds discussion.

For people who already understand situation it is probably OK, but when
I first time saw this patch series I just said WTF and description in
Documentation files nor in commit messages did not help me.

I would suggest to properly document *current* behaviour of LED sysfs
files in Documentation/ABI before doing any decision how to solve
current problem.

Without correct documentation how sysfs LED interface behave in
different situations (trigger is active; zero is written to brightness;
brightness is read when blinking is active; etc) it is really hard to
discuss about those problems. As many people (me included) first looked
at those documentation files and think that info written here is correct
and handle everything...

Adding trigger for LED devices which belongs to keyboard backlight has
only disadvantage: You cannot set other kernel trigger to control level
of keyboard backlight.

I can imagine that trigger "key pressed" or "mouse moved" can be really
useful for controlling keyboard backlight level. But that new keyboard
backlight trigger just disallow it.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-22 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-17 22:24 [PATCH v5 1/6] leds: triggers: Add current_brightness trigger parameter Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] leds: triggers: Add a keyboard backlight trigger Hans de Goede
2016-11-18  8:55   ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]     ` <af5a6b68-310d-85ec-16db-5c9036f38ba5-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-18  9:07       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-18 16:03         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18 18:47           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-19 15:44             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-20 15:05               ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 16:21                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-20 18:48                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <acd1691b-56be-c902-feff-7ecf38ea102a-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-20 19:45                       ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-21 10:24                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21 10:42                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 11:24                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21 11:56                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 13:29                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-22 14:58                             ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2016-11-22 15:20                               ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Glenn Golden
2016-11-23 11:01                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24  9:15                                 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24  9:21                                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-24 14:21                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24 14:26                                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 15:32                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                         ` <50225a88-b928-c61b-bf6f-6c85fb6a9082-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 15:36                                           ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 16:21                                             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24 16:51                                               ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 21:35                                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                   ` <5238be1f-d669-07e6-c796-5bc0126cb456-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 21:45                                                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-25  8:33                                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25 10:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 10:25                                                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                             ` <e32e3d6c-5d6d-c882-21d9-8028c8311b0b-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 11:05                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 11:19                                                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                                   ` <2367b9a7-68f7-2038-0d3a-a9561055b4f6-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 14:49                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 15:55                                                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25 20:40                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 22:28                                                                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-21 18:49                                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-23 21:55                                                                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-13 19:17                                                                                 ` Darren Hart
2017-01-15 10:54                                                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-15 12:25                                                                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-01-15 15:05                                                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-24 12:32                                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-24 22:56                                                                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-25 13:12                                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 11:14                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 11:26                                                             ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-25 12:05                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 15:46                                                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-01 14:08                                                             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25  9:56                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25  9:51                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 11:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 13:29                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25  9:29                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21  8:35                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21  9:31                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 10:12                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-21 10:16                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 10:07                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] leds: triggers: Add support for read-only triggers Hans de Goede
2016-11-18  8:52   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18  9:04     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-18 10:49       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18 11:01         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] platform: x86: thinkpad: Call led kbd_backlight trigger on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] platform: x86: dell-laptop: Set keyboard backlight led device default trigger Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] platform: x86: dell-wmi: Call led kbd_backlight trigger on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2016-11-20 14:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] leds: triggers: Add current_brightness trigger parameter Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 18:45   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-20 19:40     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 22:12       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-20 23:07 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 23:48   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 10:02     ` Pali Rohár

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20161122145825.GS13735@pali \
    --to=pali.rohar@gmail.com \
    --cc=dvhart@infradead.org \
    --cc=hdegoede@redhat.com \
    --cc=ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=ibm-acpi@hmh.eng.br \
    --cc=j.anaszewski@samsung.com \
    --cc=jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-leds@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rpurdie@rpsys.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).