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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Matthew Garrett" <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>,
	ibm-acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	"Henrique de Moraes Holschuh"
	<ibm-acpi-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>,
	platform-driver-x86-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Hans de Goede"
	<hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	gdg-EWGI23mR1M3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	"Richard Purdie"
	<rpurdie-Fm38FmjxZ/leoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jacek Anaszewski"
	<jacek.anaszewski-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-leds-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] leds: triggers: Add a keyboard backlight trigger
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 12:05:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161125110557.GA13204@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e32e3d6c-5d6d-c882-21d9-8028c8311b0b-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>


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Hi!

> >>In view of the above we could report hw brightness changes with POLLPRI
> >>on brightness file, but unfortunately we can't because it is impossible
> >>to guarantee that readout of brightness file will return the brightness
> >>the POLLPRI was meant to notify about.
> >
> >Agreed here.
> >
> >>That's why a separate read only file seems to be the only proper
> >>solution.
> >
> >Yes please. And lets make self-changing leds into a trigger, as
> >proposed, and as Hans' patch should be already doing.
> 
> We can set one trigger at a time. In this case it will be impossible
> to have hw brightness change notifications while other trigger is
> active.

And that is a _good_ thing. We don't want to deal with "echo heartbeat
> kbd_backlight_trigger" and then asking for hardware brightness
changes.

Lets keep it simple. Yes, monitoring backlight state while hardware
updates it is useful. But doing the monitor when some kind of blinking
from the kernel is active is just a unneccessary complexity...

> >>Moreover, the file should return the brightness from the time
> >>of last POLLPRI.
> >
> >Not sure I agree here. Normally, kernel returns current state for
> >variables, does not track "old" state.
> 
> It would report current state. The file called hw_brightness_change
> should report last brightness change originating from hardware.
> The most recent hw brightness change is still current state from
> this perspective. It will be valid until next hw brightness change
> occurs.
> 
> Current state does not mean current brightness in this case.

Well.. actually... I think this is a little bit over complex and
probably unneccessary. I'd let Hans implement whatever he thinks is
easiest.

Best regards,
									Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-25 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-17 22:24 [PATCH v5 1/6] leds: triggers: Add current_brightness trigger parameter Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] leds: triggers: Add a keyboard backlight trigger Hans de Goede
2016-11-18  8:55   ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]     ` <af5a6b68-310d-85ec-16db-5c9036f38ba5-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-18  9:07       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-18 16:03         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18 18:47           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-19 15:44             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-20 15:05               ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 16:21                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-20 18:48                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <acd1691b-56be-c902-feff-7ecf38ea102a-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-20 19:45                       ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-21 10:24                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21 10:42                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 11:24                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21 11:56                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 13:29                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-22 14:58                             ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-22 15:20                               ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Glenn Golden
2016-11-23 11:01                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24  9:15                                 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24  9:21                                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-24 14:21                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24 14:26                                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 15:32                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                         ` <50225a88-b928-c61b-bf6f-6c85fb6a9082-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 15:36                                           ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 16:21                                             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-24 16:51                                               ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 21:35                                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                   ` <5238be1f-d669-07e6-c796-5bc0126cb456-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 21:45                                                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-25  8:33                                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25 10:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 10:25                                                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                             ` <e32e3d6c-5d6d-c882-21d9-8028c8311b0b-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 11:05                                                               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-11-25 11:19                                                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
     [not found]                                                                   ` <2367b9a7-68f7-2038-0d3a-a9561055b4f6-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 14:49                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 15:55                                                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25 20:40                                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 22:28                                                                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-21 18:49                                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-23 21:55                                                                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-13 19:17                                                                                 ` Darren Hart
2017-01-15 10:54                                                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-15 12:25                                                                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-01-15 15:05                                                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-24 12:32                                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-24 22:56                                                                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-25 13:12                                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 11:14                                                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 11:26                                                             ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-25 12:05                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25 15:46                                                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-12-01 14:08                                                             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25  9:56                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-25  9:51                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 11:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 13:29                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-25  9:29                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21  8:35                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-21  9:31                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-21 10:12                     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-21 10:16                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-25 10:07                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] leds: triggers: Add support for read-only triggers Hans de Goede
2016-11-18  8:52   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18  9:04     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-18 10:49       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-18 11:01         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] platform: x86: thinkpad: Call led kbd_backlight trigger on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] platform: x86: dell-laptop: Set keyboard backlight led device default trigger Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] platform: x86: dell-wmi: Call led kbd_backlight trigger on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2016-11-20 14:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] leds: triggers: Add current_brightness trigger parameter Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 18:45   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-20 19:40     ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 22:12       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-20 23:07 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-20 23:48   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-21 10:02     ` Pali Rohár

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