From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: Yauhen Kharuzhy <jekhor@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] leds: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC LEDs
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:28:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190214122840.GA21860@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92cf09b8-726d-4f1b-94ba-368a66af2246@redhat.com>
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Hi!
Jacek, could we get you to comment here? I'd prefer "hardware" trigger...
> >>That assumes that breathing is the default setting on all hardware
> >>and again I don't see why not to export this functionality to
> >
> >Save the status on boot, then restore it on rmmod/reboot/poweroff? :-).
>
> Which works until the system freezes one time. I believe that
> if we are going to do a LED driver for the charging LED on these
> devices, we MUST offer a way to put it back in its original
> state, even if the state is foo-barred at bootup.
>
> >>userspace. Just because something does not fit in the existing
> >>API is IMHO not a good reason to not expose it to userspace.
> >>
> >>I suggest that we deal with this special case by adding 3 custom
> >>sysfs attributes:
> >>
> >>1) "mode" which when read, prints, e.g. :
> >>manual [on-when-charging]
> >
> >While this allows _user on console_ to control everything using echo,
> >it is not suitable for applications trying to control LEDs.
> >
> >As there's nothing special about the case here, I believe we should
> >have generic solution here.
> >
> >My preffered solution would be "hardware" trigger that leaves the LED
> >in hardware control.
>
> As you explained in the parts which I snipped, there are many
> devices which have a similar choice for a LED being under hw or
> user control. I can see how this looks like a trigger and how we
> could use the trigger API for this.
>
> I believe though, that if we implement a "virtual" (for lack of
> a better word) trigger for this, that this should be done in the
> LED core. I can envision this working like this:
Agreed about the LED core.
> 1) Add a:
>
> hw_control_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, bool enable_hw_control);
>
> Callback to struct led_classdev which when implemented by a driver
> like the current PMIC LED controller would do what it says.
>
> 2) Have the core create and register a virtual hardware trigger the
> first time a LED cdev which has this callback gets registered.
>
> When configured as the trigger for this LED device this trigger calls
> hw_control_set(cdev, true) and when unregistered calls
> hw_control_set(cdev, false)
>
> Taking a quick look at the trigger code, a problem with this is
> that normally any trigger can work with any led device, so this
> "hardware" trigger will show up in the list of possible
> triggers for each device.
>
> This problem can be solved by making the activate method for the
> hardware trigger check the classdev has a hw_control_set callback
> and if not return -EINVAL, or maybe -ENXIO but still this is somewhat
> inconsistent with other triggers, which AFAIK work with any LED.
I guess other option is to modify core so that it does not list
"hardware" trigger for leds that don't support it.
> >Alternatively I could imagine "hardware" sysfs attribute, containing
> >0/1, with 0==software controlled, 1==hardware controlled.
>
> Hmm, maybe call it "hardware_controlled" instead ? Otherwise this
> would work for me and I would personally prefer this solution. This
> could even be done in the LED core using the hw_control_set callback
> I proposed, to make sure it is handled consistently between devices.
This should be in LED core, yes.
> >The rest of attributes would have to be Cove-specific, yes (but still
> >should fit with the rest of LED subsystem).
>
> Right, I see that the triggers attribute already uses the fmt where
> on "cat" all options are listed and the current active one has [] around it,
> so I think the pattern and frequency attributes I proposed should work
> well, although thinking more about this I believe the freq. attribute should
> be called pattern_freq to make clear it applies to blinking / breathing
> set through the pattern attribute.
Take a look at blinking trigger. It can already do hardware
acceleration, but uses different format than what you proposed.
Best regards,
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-14 12:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-12 20:58 [PATCH v2 0/2] Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove LEDs support Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] leds: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC LEDs Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-13 22:43 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-13 23:07 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-13 23:25 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-13 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 9:57 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 11:31 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-14 12:28 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2019-02-15 21:41 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 23:26 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 21:46 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-14 23:03 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-15 7:27 ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-15 21:43 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 11:26 ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-15 11:27 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-15 13:02 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-15 21:42 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 22:26 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-15 22:31 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 23:14 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-16 17:02 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 19:01 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-16 19:37 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-16 20:55 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17 0:08 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-17 14:10 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17 17:45 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-18 11:12 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-18 21:59 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 21:54 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 22:03 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17 12:40 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-14 11:28 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 21:34 ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-14 6:55 ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-14 10:04 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mfd: Add leds MFD cell for intel_soc_pmic_chtwc Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-13 21:24 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-03-20 9:56 ` Lee Jones
2019-03-20 9:57 ` Lee Jones
2019-04-21 19:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove LEDs support Hans de Goede
2019-04-24 18:32 ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
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