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From: Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <ibm-acpi@hmh.eng.br>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] leds: class: Add new optional brightness_hw_changed attribute
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:04:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <937f728f-9d36-d8db-0ed1-c6d8cd1b090e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70a01088-f772-6dec-a505-bf058cc2b0dd@gmail.com>

On 01/26/2017 08:51 PM, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> On 01/26/2017 09:33 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
>> On Wednesday 25 January 2017 22:35:53 Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
>>> On 01/25/2017 05:49 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 25 January 2017 17:11:27 Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>> Some LEDs may have their brightness level changed autonomously
>>>>> (outside of kernel control) by hardware / firmware. This commit
>>>>> adds support for an optional brightness_hw_changed attribute to
>>>>> signal such changes to userspace (if a driver can detect them):
>>>>>
>>>>> What:		/sys/class/leds/<led>/brightness_hw_changed
>>>>> Date:		January 2017
>>>>> KernelVersion:	4.11
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> 		Last hardware set brightness level for this LED. Some LEDs
>>>>> 		may be changed autonomously by hardware/firmware. Only LEDs
>>>>> 		where this happens and the driver can detect this, will
>>>>> 		have this file.
>>>>>
>>>>> 		This file supports poll() to detect when the hardware
>>>>> 		changes the brightness.
>>>>>
>>>>> 		Reading this file will return the last brightness level set
>>>>> 		by the hardware, this may be different from the current
>>>>> 		brightness.
>>
>> In which situation this attribute may be different?
>>
>> I think some information should be present in this description...
> 
> The first sentence in description says:
> 
> "Last hardware set brightness level for this LED" - i.e. it may be
> different from the _actual_ brightness, which could have been set by
> LED class driver.
> 
>>>>> Drivers which want to support this, simply add LED_BRIGHT_HW_CHANGED to
>>>>> their flags field and call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed()
>>>>> with the hardware set brightness when they detect a hardware / firmware
>>>>> triggered brightness change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Just speculation: What about using name 'actual_brightness'? It provides
>>>> same output on read as actual_brightness from /sys/class/backlight/.
>>>
>>> This name is ambiguous. Propagating it to the LED subsystem only because
>>> it exists in backlight is not sufficient argument IMHO.
>>
>> I thought that having same name could help userspace and also to have
>> consistency between similar subsystems. But ok, that was just my
>> speculation.
> 
> Please also note the "actual" would be ambiguous especially in view
> of my above explanation.
> 
>> I have just one small suggestion in current name "brightness_hw_changed".
>> As it provides regular read() capability I would suggest to not indicate
>> "activity" (changed) in name...
> 
> Without "changed" one could think that brightness file (the one we have
> currently) doesn't reflect hardware state.

A new, possibly better name has just come to my mind.
Since the file has two purposes: to notify about brightness changes
made by hardware and caching last such a change, then we could call
it hw_brightness_cache. Now there is no activity in the file name.

-- 
Best regards,
Jacek Anaszewski

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-26 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:11 [PATCH v6 1/4] leds: class: Add new optional brightness_hw_changed Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 16:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] leds: class: Add new optional brightness_hw_changed attribute Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 16:49   ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-25 21:35     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-26  8:33       ` Pali Rohár
2017-01-26 19:51         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-26 20:04           ` Jacek Anaszewski [this message]
2017-01-27  7:38             ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 21:35   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-01-26 21:12     ` Pavel Machek
2017-01-27  7:40       ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 16:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] platform/x86/thinkpad: Call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2017-01-28 13:36   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-01-28 15:34     ` Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 16:11 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] platform/x86/dell-*: Add a generic dell-laptop notifier chain Hans de Goede
2017-01-25 16:11 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] platform/x86/dell-*: Call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede

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