From: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
To: matthew patton <pattonme@yahoo.com>,
LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:53:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <052d4c46af896716c0f47132f4ddfb8d@assyoma.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1575245610.821680.1505258554456@mail.yahoo.com>
Il 13-09-2017 01:22 matthew patton ha scritto:
>> Step-by-step example:
> > - create a 40 GB thin volume and subtract its size from the thin
> pool (USED 40 GB, FREE 60 GB, REFER 0 GB);
> > - overwrite the entire volume (USED 40 GB, FREE 60 GB, REFER 40 GB);
> > - snapshot the volume (USED 40 GB, FREE 60 GB, REFER 40 GB);
>
> And 3 other threads also take snapshots against the same volume, or
> frankly any other volume in the pool.
> Since the next step (overwrite) hasn't happened yet or has written
> less than 20GB, all succeed.
>
> > - completely overwrite the original volume (USED 80 GB, FREE 20 GB,
> REFER 40 GB);
>
> 4 threads all try to write their respective 40GB. Afterall, they got
> the green-light since their snapshot was allowed to be taken.
> Your thinLV blows up spectacularly.
>
> > - a new snapshot creation will fails (REFER is higher then FREE).
> nobody cares about new snapshot creation attempts at this point.
>
>
>> When do you decide it ? (you need to see this is total race-lend)
>
> exactly!
I all the examples I did, the snapshot are suppose to be read-only or at
least never written. I thought that it was implicitly clear due to ZFS
(used as example) being read-only by default. Sorry for not explicitly
stating that.
However, the refreservation mechanism can protect the original volume
even when snapshots are writeable. Here we go:
# Create a 400M ZVOL and fill it
[root@localhost ~]# zfs create -V 400M tank/vol1
[root@localhost ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/zvol/tank/vol1 bs=1M
oflag=direct
dd: error writing ‘/dev/zvol/tank/vol1’: No space left on device
401+0 records in
400+0 records out
419430400 bytes (419 MB) copied, 23.0573 s, 18.2 MB/s
[root@localhost ~]# zfs list -t all
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
tank 416M 464M 24K /tank
tank/vol1 414M 478M 401M -
# Create some snapshots (note how the USED value increased due to the
snapshot reserving space for all "live" data in the ZVOL)
[root@localhost ~]# zfs set snapdev=visible tank/vol1
[root@localhost ~]# zfs snapshot tank/vol1@snap1
[root@localhost ~]# zfs snapshot tank/vol1@snap2
[root@localhost ~]# zfs list -t all
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
tank 816M 63.7M 24K /tank
tank/vol1 815M 478M 401M -
tank/vol1@snap1 0B - 401M -
tank/vol1@snap2 0B - 401M -
# Clone the snapshot (to be able to overwrite it)
[root@localhost ~]# zfs clone tank/vol1@snap1 tank/cvol1
[root@localhost ~]# zfs list -t all
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
tank 815M 64.6M 24K /tank
tank/cvol1 1K 64.6M 401M -
tank/vol1 815M 479M 401M -
tank/vol1@snap1 0B - 401M -
tank/vol1@snap2 0B - 401M -
# Writing to the cloned ZVOL fails (after only 66 MB written) *without*
impacting the original volume
[root@localhost ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/zvol/tank/cvol1 bs=1M
oflag=direct
dd: error writing ‘/dev/zvol/tank/cvol1’: Input/output error
64+0 records in
63+0 records out
66060288 bytes (66 MB) copied, 25.9189 s, 2.5 MB/s
After the last write, the cloned cvol1 is clearly corrputed, but the
original volume has not problem at all.
Now, I am *not* advocating switching thinp to a ZFS-like things (ie:
note the write speed, which is low even for my super-slow notebook HDD).
However, a mechanism with which we can tell LVM "hey, this volume should
have all its space as reserved, don't worry about preventing snapshots
and/or freezing them when free space runs out".
This was more or less the case with classical, fat LVM: a snapshot
runnig out of space *will* fail, but the original volume remains
unaffected.
Thanks.
--
Danti Gionatan
Supporto Tecnico
Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it
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2017-09-12 23:22 ` [linux-lvm] Reserve space for specific thin logical volumes matthew patton
2017-09-13 7:53 ` Gionatan Danti [this message]
2017-09-13 8:15 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 8:28 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13 8:44 ` Zdenek Kabelac
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2017-09-15 8:15 ` matthew patton
2017-09-15 10:01 ` Zdenek Kabelac
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2017-09-12 21:36 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:16 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 22:41 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:02 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 23:15 ` Gionatan Danti
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2017-09-12 15:03 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12 17:09 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 22:41 ` Zdenek Kabelac
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2017-09-11 22:56 ` matthew patton
2017-09-12 5:28 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-08 10:35 Gionatan Danti
2017-09-08 11:06 ` Xen
2017-09-09 22:04 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-11 10:35 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 10:55 ` Xen
2017-09-11 11:20 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 12:06 ` Xen
2017-09-11 12:45 ` Xen
2017-09-11 13:11 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 13:46 ` Xen
2017-09-12 11:46 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:37 ` Xen
2017-09-12 14:37 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:44 ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:14 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 21:57 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 17:41 ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:17 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14 3:19 ` Xen
2017-09-12 17:00 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 23:25 ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-13 8:15 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-13 8:33 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-13 18:43 ` Xen
2017-09-13 19:35 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-14 5:59 ` Xen
2017-09-14 19:05 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15 2:06 ` Brassow Jonathan
2017-09-15 6:02 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-15 8:37 ` Xen
2017-09-15 7:34 ` Xen
2017-09-15 9:22 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-16 22:33 ` Xen
2017-09-17 6:31 ` Xen
2017-09-17 7:10 ` Xen
2017-09-18 19:20 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-20 13:05 ` Xen
2017-09-21 9:49 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 10:22 ` Xen
2017-09-21 13:02 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-21 14:49 ` Xen
2017-09-21 20:32 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-18 8:56 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 14:00 ` Xen
2017-09-11 17:34 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 15:31 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 15:52 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:35 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 17:41 ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 21:08 ` Eric Ren
2017-09-11 16:55 ` David Teigland
2017-09-11 17:43 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-11 21:59 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 11:01 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 11:34 ` Gionatan Danti
2017-09-12 12:03 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 12:47 ` Xen
2017-09-12 13:51 ` pattonme
2017-09-12 14:57 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-12 16:49 ` Xen
2017-09-12 16:57 ` Gionatan Danti
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