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From: Ming Zhang <mingz@ele.uri.edu>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] lvm2 *TEMPORARY* PV failure - what happens?
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:57:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145995049.26842.103.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <444E73C3.7040305@nrel.colostate.edu>

my 2c. fix me if i am wrong

either activate the VG partially, and then all LVs on other PVs are
still accessible. I remember these LVs will only have RO access. Though
I have no idea why.

use dm-zero to generate a fake PVs and add to VG, then allow VG to
activate and access those LV. But i do not know if you access a LV that
is partially or fully on this PV, what will happen.

Ming


On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 13:08 -0600, Ty! Boyack wrote:
> I've been intrigued by the discussion of what happens when a PV fails, 
> and have begun to wonder what would happen in the case of a transient 
> failure of a PV.
> 
> The design I'm thinking of is a SAN environment with several 
> multi-terabyte iSCSI arrays as PVs, being grouped together into a single 
> VG, and then carving LVs out of that.  We plan on using the CLVM tools 
> to fit into a clustered environment. 
> 
> The arrays themselves are robust (RAID 5/6, redundant power supplies, 
> etc.) and I grant that if we lose the actual array (for example, if 
> multiple disks fail), then we are in the situation of a true and 
> possibly total failure of the PV and loss of it's data blocks.
> 
> But there is always the possiblity that we could lose the CPU, memory, 
> bus, etc. in the iSCSI controller portion of the array, which will cause 
> downtime, but no true loss of data.  Or someone may hit the wrong power 
> switch and just reboot the thing, taking it offline for a short time.  
> Yes, that someone would probably be me.  Shame on me.
> 
> The key point is that the iSCSI disk will come back in a few 
> minutes/hours/days depending on the failure type, and all blocks will be 
> intact when it comes back up.  I suppose the analagous situation would 
> be using LVM on a group of hot swap drives and pulling one of the disks, 
> waiting a while, and then re-inserting it.
> 
> Can someone please walk me through the resulting steps that would happen 
> within LVM2 (or a GFS filesystem on top of that LV) in this situation?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Ty!
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-25 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-25 19:08 [linux-lvm] lvm2 *TEMPORARY* PV failure - what happens? Ty! Boyack
2006-04-25 19:57 ` Ming Zhang [this message]
2006-04-25 20:21   ` Jonathan E Brassow
2006-04-25 20:39     ` Ming Zhang
2006-04-25 21:34       ` Jonathan E Brassow
2006-04-25 21:44         ` Ming Zhang
2006-04-25 22:13       ` Ty! Boyack
2006-04-25 22:54         ` Ming Zhang
2006-04-26 16:08           ` Jonathan E Brassow

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