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@ 2001-04-19 19:48 AJ Lewis
  2001-04-20 19:24 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: AJ Lewis @ 2001-04-19 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm

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Just FYI:

This list is now completely unmoderated.  If you haven't been following the
thread, a number of people got pissed off and decided to open a new ML,
linux-openlvm@nl.linux.org, when they couldn't get a response from us.  This
was an unfortunate misunderstanding, and hopefully it's resolved now.
Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions or concerns you might have
regarding this list if you don't get a response through the normal channels.

Regards,
-- 
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* Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-20 19:24 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list Heinz J. Mauelshagen
@ 2001-04-20 17:39   ` Wichert Akkerman
  2001-04-20 18:04   ` Alan Cox
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Wichert Akkerman @ 2001-04-20 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm, linux-kernel

Previously Heinz J. Mauelshagen wrote:
> Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all
> that we want to change its GPL nature!

I think the general sentiment is that LVM is a Linux project,
currently being managed by Sistina. 

Also, since you have merged patches from other you no longer can
change the license since Sistina is not the sole copyright holder.

Wichert.

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* [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-20 19:24 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  2001-04-20 17:39   ` Wichert Akkerman
@ 2001-04-20 18:04   ` Alan Cox
  2001-04-20 18:25     ` Jens Axboe
  2001-04-23  9:50     ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2001-04-20 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mauelshagen; +Cc: linux-lvm, linux-kernel

> We will announce when they are available ASAP and would appreciate if
> people like Alan Cox, Andrea Arcangeli and Andreas Dilger
> could check them *before* we start submitting them to Linus.

I'll be glad to help look over them.

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* [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-20 18:04   ` Alan Cox
@ 2001-04-20 18:25     ` Jens Axboe
  2001-04-23 10:16       ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  2001-04-23  9:50     ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jens Axboe @ 2001-04-20 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: Mauelshagen, linux-lvm, linux-kernel

On Fri, Apr 20 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> > We will announce when they are available ASAP and would appreciate if
> > people like Alan Cox, Andrea Arcangeli and Andreas Dilger
> > could check them *before* we start submitting them to Linus.
> 
> I'll be glad to help look over them.

Same here, the important thing is that we actually get this patch flow
going. And hopefully in the future as well :)

-- 
Jens Axboe

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* [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-19 19:48 [linux-lvm] linux-lvm list now open AJ Lewis
@ 2001-04-20 19:24 ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  2001-04-20 17:39   ` Wichert Akkerman
  2001-04-20 18:04   ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J. Mauelshagen @ 2001-04-20 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-lvm; +Cc: linux-kernel

Having just a couple of days of vacation I got informed today that
a number of people got pissed off and decided to open a new Linux LVM mailing
list <linux-openlvm@nl.linux.org>.

Facts people complained about included:

 1. people got dropped from the list

 2. messages bouncing

 3. lack of (small) LVM patches to the Linux kernel

 4. submitted patches being ignored


WRT points 1 and 2:
-------------------
our Linux LVM mailing list <linux-lvm@sistina.com> is now completely open
in order to avoid such kind of problems in the future.

We apologize for any kind of trouble this caused in the past!

We kindly ask everybody to stay at <linux-lvm@sistina.com> or to join it
in order to avoid a mailing list split.

Thanks a lot!


WRT point 3:
------------
we will regard the Linus kernel as *the* repository for LVM driver changes
rather than our public CVS repository from now on!

In order to ease this migration we are working to create a bunch of small
patches to submit them to the comunity.

We will announce when they are available ASAP and would appreciate if
people like Alan Cox, Andrea Arcangeli and Andreas Dilger
could check them *before* we start submitting them to Linus.

Thanks a lot in advance for your support.


WRT point 4:
------------
a lot of patches send in by the comunity have been included
in the actual LVM source.
We appreciate all your valuable related work!

Nevertheless about 30 patches which would have changed too much have been
postponed for LVM 1.1 *because* we are in a feature freeze since a couple
of weeks heading to a production stable LVM 1.0.

The submitters have been informed about this fact.

We will make these postponed patches accessable to everybody and will
discuss the status of future patches in the public on the list from now on
in order to avoid any further lack of information here.

None of the patches which showed up on the lvm mailing lists
have been discarded without notice!


General statement:
------------------
Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all
that we want to change its GPL nature!

We apologize for any inconveniences and kindly ask everybody to continue to
help us making a better Linux LVM.

-- 

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --

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Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
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* [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-20 18:04   ` Alan Cox
  2001-04-20 18:25     ` Jens Axboe
@ 2001-04-23  9:50     ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J. Mauelshagen @ 2001-04-23  9:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: Mauelshagen, linux-lvm, linux-kernel

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:04:21PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > We will announce when they are available ASAP and would appreciate if
> > people like Alan Cox, Andrea Arcangeli and Andreas Dilger
> > could check them *before* we start submitting them to Linus.
> 
> I'll be glad to help look over them.

Thanks Alan :-)

-- 

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
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* [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list
  2001-04-20 18:25     ` Jens Axboe
@ 2001-04-23 10:16       ` Heinz J. Mauelshagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heinz J. Mauelshagen @ 2001-04-23 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jens Axboe; +Cc: Alan Cox, Mauelshagen, linux-lvm, linux-kernel

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:25:15PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > We will announce when they are available ASAP and would appreciate if
> > > people like Alan Cox, Andrea Arcangeli and Andreas Dilger
> > > could check them *before* we start submitting them to Linus.
> > 
> > I'll be glad to help look over them.
> 
> Same here, the important thing is that we actually get this patch flow
> going. And hopefully in the future as well :)

Thanks and yep.
We learned that leasson now. Hopefully ;-)

> 
> -- 
> Jens Axboe

-- 

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Heinz Mauelshagen                                 Sistina Software Inc.
Senior Consultant/Developer                       Am Sonnenhang 11
                                                  56242 Marienrachdorf
                                                  Germany
Mauelshagen@Sistina.com                           +49 2626 141200
                                                       FAX 924446
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2001-04-20 17:39   ` Wichert Akkerman
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