From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Heinz J . Mauelshagen" Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing Message-Id: <20020201111304.C15491@sistina.com> References: <20020201110218.B4008@nshhvrnbk013.netshare.ag> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020201110218.B4008@nshhvrnbk013.netshare.ag>; from sgiessler@gmx.net on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:02:18AM +0100 Sender: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com Errors-To: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com Reply-To: linux-lvm@sistina.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Feb 1 04:18:01 2002 List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-lvm@sistina.com On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:02:18AM +0100, STEFANG(GMX) wrote: > Hallo list, > > on Fre, 01 Feb 2002, Heinz J . Mauelshagen (mauelshagen@sistina.com) wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:05:56PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote: > [...] > > > I've worked with Kevin a few months ago on using EVMS > > > to recover a filesystem ontop of LVM when a disk went > > > south and we had no backups > > > > It is quite intersting how many people don't take backups even though > > almost everybody claims to know that backups are crucial and some of them > > know that they are still, even though they might have RAID in place. > > You cannot replace Backups with a RAID system... Which is exactly my point above ;-) RAID DOES NOT REPLACE BACKUPS! > a RAID system is > just fine to help you in cas of a hardware failure, but if a disk > driver/user/hacker goes wild you are in big trouble 'cause the data > is gone on all disks. I had the very same discussion in many > companies; the MBA guys try to tell you there is no need for a > backup (Backup is essentially an unneeded "loss center" for them) > since they have installed a RAID system... ;-) > > CU, > Stefan > -- > Stefan Giessler e-mail: > sgiessler@gmx.net > > artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html -- Regards, Heinz -- The LVM Guy -- *** Software bugs are stupid. Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them *** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Heinz Mauelshagen Sistina Software Inc. Senior Consultant/Developer Am Sonnenhang 11 56242 Marienrachdorf Germany Mauelshagen@Sistina.com +49 2626 141200 FAX 924446 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-