From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from localhost (dhcp-100-19-150.bos.redhat.com [10.16.19.150]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1FDfGFE019502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:41:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:41:15 -0500 From: Mike Snitzer Message-ID: <20110215134115.GA19353@redhat.com> References: <20110214103112.4fb76864@bettercgi.com> <20110214181448.GC5825@agk-dp.fab.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] lvcreate and lvremove --quiet option is not quiet Reply-To: LVM general discussion and development List-Id: LVM general discussion and development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: LVM general discussion and development On Tue, Feb 15 2011 at 8:02am -0500, Jeff wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Alasdair G Kergon wrote: > > The simple problem is that the code today does not distinguish between > > essential output (to stdout) and incidental output (to stdout). > > > > If I run 'pvs' I expect a list of PVs. > > If I run 'pvs --quiet' do I still expect to see that list? > > > > Today, there is no distinction: pvs output and the message you're wanting > > to suppress are the same category of message. > > Yes, there should be a difference between "do-something" commands and > "tell-me-something" commands. I hope there aren't too many cases where > that's a gray area. Ignoring the fact that we have a --quiet option for a moment, why is the additional output of the command(s) so problematic?