From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: DarkNovaNick@gmail.com
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com,
LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target [was: Re: Testing TRIM with LVM]
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:48:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110413234854.GA19793@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110413224025.GA18589@redhat.com>
On Wed, Apr 13 2011 at 6:40pm -0400,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12 2011 at 9:47pm -0400,
> DarkNovaNick@gmail.com <DarkNovaNick@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I get 0 back when I do "cat
> > /sys/block/sda/queue/discard_zeroes_data" so does this mean that my
> > drive doesn't zero out the TRIMed blocks? I don't really care if it
> > does or does not, I just want to make sure the drive is getting the
> > TRIM commands as the benchmarks I've seen show performance
> > degradation if they aren't used.
>
> Right, means TRIM doesn't zero the TRIM'd blocks.
>
> But otherwise it looks like you're in good shape relative to TRIM.
>
> > Regarding snapshot targets, the only instance of "discard not
> > supported" came as I did a snapshot today:
> >
> > Apr 12 15:27:58 darknovanick kernel: [65147.211211] EXT4-fs warning
> > (device dm-0): release_blocks_on_commit:2672: discard not supported,
> > disabling
> > Apr 12 15:28:16 darknovanick kernel: [65166.103061] EXT4-fs (dm-1):
> > 72 orphan inodes deleted
> > Apr 12 15:28:16 darknovanick kernel: [65166.103062] EXT4-fs (dm-1):
> > recovery complete
> > Apr 12 15:28:17 darknovanick kernel: [65166.232257] EXT4-fs (dm-1):
> > mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
> >
> > This snapshot was of a LV on the SSD, but the snapshot itself was
> > being stored on a mechanical hard drive. Does this message mean that
> > discard was just disabled for the snapshot itself (which was deleted
> > a half hour later), or is it now disabled for the entire volume now
> > that I've done a snapshot, even though its been removed?
>
> Unfortunately, the failed discard to the snapshot-origin device disables
> ext4's discards for the entire volume (even after you remove the
> snapshot).
>
> But the following patch fixes that:
>
> Subject: dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target
>
> Allow the snapshot-origin target to pass discards to the origin device
> (after any copyout of the region being discarded; but generally speaking
> that copyout won't be needed as the region will have already been copied
> to the cow).
>
> So for example, when you remove a file from an ext4 mounted origin
> volume it triggers copyout to the snapshot. When the DISCARD is then
> issued during the subsequent journal commit no copyout is needed.
It should be noted that discards are treated as writes. This means that
a snapshot should not be taken of an origin volume before a filesystem
is placed on that origin. Doing so may result in the entire origin
volume being discarded (mkfs.ext4 does this) which would cause copyout
of the entire origin volume to the snapshot.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-13 23:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-12 14:59 [linux-lvm] Testing TRIM with LVM DarkNovaNick
2011-04-12 23:47 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13 1:47 ` DarkNovaNick
2011-04-13 8:41 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2011-04-13 15:38 ` DarkNovaNick
2011-04-13 22:40 ` [linux-lvm] [PATCH] dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target [was: Re: Testing TRIM with LVM] Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13 23:48 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2011-04-26 17:32 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 0:19 ` [linux-lvm] [PATCH] dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 7:53 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-28 20:59 ` [linux-lvm] do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target] Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 21:28 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 22:59 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-28 23:01 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 23:11 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29 1:12 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-29 13:55 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-29 9:30 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-04-29 12:24 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-29 14:28 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-29 15:13 ` Ray Morris
2011-05-04 16:33 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-04 17:02 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 7:16 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 8:13 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-05-02 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 10:24 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 12:48 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 13:05 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:47 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-02 14:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:58 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 13:48 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:39 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:58 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 16:58 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-03 8:57 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 15:10 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:02 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 16:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 18:03 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 17:10 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:32 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 17:35 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-18 12:16 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-18 12:52 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 15:16 ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:12 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-05 8:33 ` Karel Zak
2011-05-05 10:48 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-04-14 15:31 ` [linux-lvm] [PATCH] dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target [was: Re: Testing TRIM wi DarkNovaNick
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