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From: Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
To: mpatocka@redhat.com
Cc: dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-lvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	lvm-devel@lists.linux.dev, rafael@kernel.org,
	Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] swsusp: make it possible to hibernate to device mapper devices
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2025 03:56:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251130005656.3644711-1-safinaskar@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b32d0701-4399-9c5d-ecc8-071162df97a7@redhat.com>

Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/b32d0701-4399-9c5d-ecc8-071162df97a7@redhat.com/ :
> Askar Safin requires swap and hibernation on the dm-integrity device mapper
> target because he needs to protect his data.
> 
> This hits two problems:
> 1. The kernel doesn't send the flush bio to the hibernation device after
>    writing the image and before powering off - this is easy to fix
> 2. The dm-integrity target keeps parts of the device in-memory - it keeps
>    a journal and a dm-bufio cache in memory. If we hibernate and resume,
>    the content of memory no longer matches the data on the hibernate
>    partition and that may cause spurious errors - this is hard to fix

Let me add some more info on this patchset.

First of all, I already solved the problem for me personally:
I wrote hackish patch, which fixes the problem. My patch is tested on
my real hardware under load. I successfully use it for 2 weeks
(I hibernated a lot of times during this period.)
The patch is absolutely rock solid, and I absolutely sure it is correct.
Unfortunately, it is not generic, it is tied to my particular configuration,
it hard codes paths (!!!), and hence is non-upstreamable.

Here is this patch for your information:
https://zerobin.net/?ad6142bd67df015a#68Az6yBUxHA3AXB7jY1+clSRnR745olFHAByxwPGM08= .

Feel free to use code from it.

So I personally is not in hurry, I already have solution, which works for me.
(But I am still available for testing.)


Your patch has a problem: after "notify_swap_device" call, the pages can
still be swapped out. "pm_restrict_gfp_mask" call in "hibernation_snapshot"
prevents further swapping. Thus "notify_swap_device" should be called
after "pm_restrict_gfp_mask" (but read on).

I attempted to create test case, which would expose this problem. And I was
unable to do so. Still I believe this is a real problem.


Also, our problem is very similar to reason of introducing "filesystems_freeze"
( https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18-rc7/source/kernel/power/hibernate.c#L824 ).

See problem description here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/0a76e074ef262ca857c61175dd3d0dc06b67ec42.camel@HansenPartnership.com/ .

See also https://lwn.net/Articles/1018341/ .

(See also this huge thread
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250327140613.25178-1-James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com/ .)

"filesystems_freeze" logic is already implemented in mainline. It is gated
behind /sys/power/freeze_filesystems .

As you can see, authors of "filesystems_freeze" attempted to solve similar
problem. Thus, we should probably flush buffers in "filesystems_freeze" call.
Ideally, flushing of dm-integrity should be correctly ordered with freezing of filesystems
to support complex storage hierarchies (i. e. swap on dm-integrity on loop
device on some filesystem, etc).

But... call to "filesystems_freeze" happens before "pm_restrict_gfp_mask" call.

So... in this point I gave up, and I don't know what to do (i. e. what the upstream
kernel should do).


Feel free to ask any questions.


I changed CCs for further exposure.

-- 
Askar Safin

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-30  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-23 11:29 dm bug: hibernate to swap located on dm-integrity doesn't work (how to get data redundancy for swap?) Askar Safin
2025-10-23 20:42 ` Milan Broz
2025-10-24 16:31   ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 17:50     ` Milan Broz
2025-10-25  5:26     ` Askar Safin
2025-10-27  8:08   ` Askar Safin
     [not found] ` <4cd2d217-f97d-4923-b852-4f8746456704@mazyland.cz>
2025-10-24 10:23   ` [PATCH] pm-hibernate: flush block device cache when hibernating Mikulas Patocka
2025-10-27  8:42     ` Askar Safin
2025-10-31 19:29       ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-10-31 19:33         ` [PATCH 1/2] pm-hibernate: flush disk cache when suspending Mikulas Patocka
2025-11-03 15:53           ` Askar Safin
2025-11-22 13:51             ` Milan Broz
2025-11-22 20:33           ` Askar Safin
2025-11-22 22:47           ` Askar Safin
2025-11-24 19:51             ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-10-31 19:35         ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] swsusp: make it possible to hibernate to device mapper devices Mikulas Patocka
2025-11-30  0:56           ` Askar Safin [this message]
2025-10-29 13:31     ` [PATCH] pm-hibernate: flush block device cache when hibernating Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 14:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 16:31         ` Mikulas Patocka

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