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From: Rich <rich@hq.vsaa.lv>
To: linux-lvm@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] xfs_freeze & lvm2
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:20:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43578B7E.7060805@hq.vsaa.lv> (raw)

i'm sorry for breaking the thread, but i am reading responses through 
web archive ;)

..

 >> as i understand it, consistent copy is created when lvcreate is
 >> issued, not when snapshot volume is mounted - is this right ?

 > As i understood things, no. Mounttime matters ;-) see
 > <http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshotintro.html> and as 
example <http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshots_backup.html>.

well, supposedly there is no way to see wether changes are propogated to 
snapshot between lvcreate and mount because you must mount it to see 
(reminds about cats & boxes) ;)

but there are two things that lead me to believe it is lvcreate that 
matters :

1. "You should remove snapshot volume when you have finished with them 
because they take a copy of all data written to the original volume and 
this can hurt performance."

note, it says "remove", not unmount. additionally, you can easily mount 
and unmount snapshot several times - it would be pretty hard to have a 
consistent copy in such a case;

2. i did some testing before : created a snapshot (but did not mount 
it), made some modifications to original data and checked wether used 
space would increase for snapshot volume (with lvdisplay). well, it did 
  - so i assumed snapshot is created, well, when it is created :)

..

 >> if it actually is done together with snapshot, does this mean that i
 >> really can forget about xfs_freeze and just create snapshots ?

well, what about this part ?
from what i have read here and also in other places, xfs filesystem 
should be consistent, but i would like to be sure (though i might try to 
test this by simulating activity during lvcreate, i would prefer not to)

 >> must i specify ro in mount options or is this optional ?
 > Well, if i'm wrong ( and to be honest, i didn't play around with all
 > the stuff for 1 1/2 years now :-( ) somebody might correct me, but if
 > i remember postings from linux-xfs mailing list, rw-snapshots with XFS
 > is not quite unstable ...

well, as i don't need r/w anyway, i'll stick with ro, just to be sure 
then :)

 > Cheers
 > Klaus
-- 
  Rich

             reply	other threads:[~2005-10-20 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-20 12:20 Rich [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-14 13:34 [linux-lvm] xfs_freeze & lvm2 Rich
2005-10-18 12:06 ` Klaus Strebel

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