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From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] LVM on SATA/PATA disks
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:46:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <464740CD.1080807@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464672A6.3000408@davidb.org>

David Brown wrote:
> Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
> 
>>> How does SATA fit in with all of this?  Is it basically the same
>>> limitations on the bus as IDE/PATA, so that you'd really not want to put
>>> more than 1 device per bus?
>> SATA mandates at most 1 disk per channel, making the issue moot.  It is
>> still true that there is only one active disk on a bus.  But then there
>> is only one disk on a bus.
> 
> Newer SATA drives, with proper newer controllers and proper device
> driver support will support NCQ (native command queueing), which
> allows the drive to re-order requests.  It appears that the Linux ACHI
> and Nvidia SATA drivers support this capability in recent kernels.
> 
> Of course, any of the re-ordering (SCSI TCQ, or SATA NCQ) requires
> filesystem and driver support of write barriers for reliability.
> Write barriers are not implement in DM, hence LVM, so there is a
> reliability risk in going with this kind of solution.  Depending on
> the filesystem this can result in power failures resulting in files
> having inconsistent data.

Are you saying that LVM on SCSI is not safe in this scenario?

-- 
   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-13 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-12 21:42 [linux-lvm] LVM on SATA/PATA disks Bertrand Renuart
2007-05-13  1:12 ` Stuart D. Gathman
2007-05-13  1:23   ` Brian J. Murrell
2007-05-13  1:34     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2007-05-13  2:06       ` David Brown
2007-05-13 16:46         ` Les Mikesell [this message]
2007-05-13 17:24           ` Stuart D. Gathman
2007-05-14  8:38             ` Bryn M. Reeves
2007-05-14  8:30         ` Bryn M. Reeves
2007-05-14 15:24           ` David Brown
2007-05-15 14:35             ` Bryn M. Reeves
2007-05-13 20:25   ` Bertrand Renuart
2007-05-14 14:53     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2007-05-14 14:59     ` Daniel Davidson

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