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From: "Bryn M. Reeves" <bmr@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Will LVM2 ever be able to do striped mirrors "raid 10"?
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:02:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EC2C28.9030304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37d33d830904130730j6cb7bc16y50a2a6ac682dc5d@mail.gmail.com>

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Sandeep K Sinha wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Bryn M. Reeves <bmr@redhat.com> wrote:
> John Hughes wrote:
>>>> malahal@us.ibm.com wrote:
>>>>> John Hughes [john@Calva.COM] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Hughes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                if (lp->stripes > 1) {
>>>>>>>                        log_error("mirrors and stripes are currently "
>>>>>>>                                  "incompatible");
>>>>>>>                        return 0;
>>>>>>>                }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should I just stick with mdadm for my mirroring and striping needs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>> You can do it today with some hassle or wait until someone implements a
>>>>> feature called 'generic layering'. The feature really means, treat some
>>>>> LVs as PVs!
>>>>>
>>>>> How can you do raid10 today? Create two raid0 LVs. Lets us call these
>>>>> lvgroup0/lv0 and lvgroup0/lv1. Now create raid1 lv in lvgroup1 where
>>>>> lvgroup1's PVs are lvgroup0/lv0 and lvgroup0/lv1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't that a rai10 volume?
> No, it's a RAID 0+1 (RAID01/mirror of stripes).
> 
>>>> To increase the chances of surviving a double-disk failure it would be
>>>> better to raid-0 a bunch of raid-1's.
> This is RAID1+0 (RAID10/stripe of mirrors) - it's usually preferable to
> 0+1 not only because of the improved redundancy but also the individual
> 
>> I disagree.
> 
>> Look at this:
>> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/levels/multXY-c.html

What do you disagree with?

The article you linked to points out the same robustness and recovery
concerns with a 0+1 layout as I mentioned earlier. It then goes on to
say that this could be mitigated for 0+1 by a smart RAID implementation
that continues to stripe to partially-failed RAID 0 sets but that most
actual RAID controllers don't chose to implement this.

The article seems to make the same claims as I did.

Regards,
Bryn.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08 13:11 [linux-lvm] Will LVM2 ever be able to do striped mirrors "raid 10"? John Hughes
2009-04-09  7:17 ` [linux-lvm] Will LVM2 ever be able to do striped mirrors "raid 10"? >>> Use HARDWARE RAID CONTROLLERS Axel Werner
2009-04-09 10:57   ` John Hughes
2009-04-09 13:41     ` Stuart D. Gathman
2009-04-09 11:45   ` Bryn M. Reeves
2009-04-09 13:10     ` Mark H. Wood
2009-04-09 14:40   ` Greg Bledsoe
2009-04-09 18:37   ` Harald Milz
2009-04-17  8:32   ` Luca Berra
2009-04-10  8:26 ` [linux-lvm] Will LVM2 ever be able to do striped mirrors "raid 10"? John Hughes
2009-04-10 10:19   ` malahal
2009-04-10 10:48     ` John Hughes
2009-04-12 13:54       ` Drew
2009-04-13 12:25       ` Bryn M. Reeves
2009-04-13 14:30         ` Sandeep K Sinha
2009-04-13 10:37           ` Mark Krenz
2009-04-20  8:02           ` Bryn M. Reeves [this message]

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