From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx13.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.18]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2Q5Pjsf013716 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:25:45 -0400 Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2Q5PeO6016966 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:25:41 -0400 Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110326052540.YZBB32702.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:25:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4D8D78D5.7050701@cox.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:25:41 -0500 From: Ron Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D8D6EAF.8050403@cox.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Powerfailure and snapshot consistency Reply-To: LVM general discussion and development List-Id: LVM general discussion and development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: linux-lvm@redhat.com On 03/25/2011 11:52 PM, Stuart D. Gathman wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/25/2011 11:24 PM, Stuart D. Gathman wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> 2) make sure important LVs do not span multiple PVs (except for LVM >>> mirroring) - you could be unhappy in the event of a system crash. >>> >> >> But isn't "volumes larger than physical devices" (one of) the raison >> d'etre of LVM? > > Yes, but a power failure can then mess up the ordering of write completions > distributed between 2 or more PVs, which could defeat the assumptions made > by your file system journaling. > File a bug... But against what? LVM? The FS? The block layer? > and > > No, YMMV, but I generally have a number of smaller LVs (for virtual > machines) > and it is nice to have a larger pool of PVs from which they are allocated. > I guess I'm just a DP Dinosaur who thinks that if a machine is beefy enough to run a bunch of services then those services should run directly on the machine. (Obviously I don't work for a web hosting company...) -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749