From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx14.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.19]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p361rQNi029913 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:53:26 -0400 Received: from mailhost.ankh.org (ammut.ankh.org [93.97.41.159]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p361rM8p027801 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:53:22 -0400 Received: from bast.ankh.org ([172.22.128.4]) by mailhost.ankh.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7Hvt-0006jI-Ix for linux-lvm@redhat.com; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:53:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4D9BC789.3060508@ankh.org> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:53:13 +0000 From: James Hawtin MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D64FF3C.6080602@abpni.co.uk> <4D65A839.50107@abpni.co.uk> <4D65A8F5.8040606@abpni.co.uk> <4D6609E4.10800@abpni.co.uk> <4D6671D7.7020301@abpni.co.uk> <4D667743.3010102@abpni.co.uk> <4D9B7715.7090509@abpni.co.uk> <4D9B8015.2060503@abpni.co.uk> <4D9B82C5.3020704@ankh.org> <4D9B8B5A.2070104@abpni.co.uk> <4D9B9AB9.8070202@ankh.org> <4D9B9D48.5010008@abpni.c! o.uk> <4D9BA196.20006@ankh.org> <4D9BA39A.8020008@abpni.co.uk> <4D9BA845.10607@an! kh.org> <4D9BAD26.5010405@abpni.co.uk> <4D9BB0D4.8050401@ankh.org> <4D9BB398.5070007@abpni.co.uk> <4D9BC3A8.1070005@ankh.org> <4D9BC63A.9040306@abpni.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D9BC63A.9040306@abpni.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Snapshots and disk re-use Reply-To: LVM general discussion and development List-Id: LVM general discussion and development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: LVM general discussion and development On 06/04/2011 01:47, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: > > Currently, as part of our procedure, we zero LVs once a customer has > left our service. The reason why we don't zero on allocation is that > customer usually expect quick setup times (under 10 minutes) and > zeroing gigabytes worth of space can take too long. Getting new zeroed > LVs ready before sign ups also isn't an option but for other reasons. Very reasonable It however is a shame than lvm cannot zero PE (physical extents) on first access or do a proper background initialisation. As would happen on hardware raids. James