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From: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
To: linux-lvm@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Missing error handling in lv_snapshot_remove
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:01:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52036C86.3040702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52028170.1010000@pse-consulting.de>

Dne 7.8.2013 19:18, Andreas Pflug napsal(a):
> On 08/07/13 11:41, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>> Dne 7.8.2013 11:22, Andreas Pflug napsal(a):
>>> Am 06.08.13 19:37, schrieb Bastian Blank:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I tried to tackle a particular bug that shows up in Debian for some time
>>>> now. Some blamed the udev rules and I still can't completely rule them
>>>> out. But this triggers a much worse bug in the error cleanup of the
>>>> snapshot remove. I reproduced this with Debian/Linux 3.2.46/LVM 2.02.99
>>>> without udevd running and Fedora 19/LVM 2.02.98-10.fc19.
>>>>
>>>> On snapshot removal, LVM first converts the device into a regular LV
>>>> (lv_remove_snapshot) and in a second step removes this LV
>>>> (lv_remove_single). Is there a reason for this two step removal? An
>>>> error during removal leaves a non-snapshot LV behind.
>>> Ah, this explains why sometimes my backup stops: I take a snapshot,
>>> rsync the stuff and remove the snapshot with a daily cron job, but I
>>> observed twice that a non-snapshot volume named like a backup snapshot
>>> was lingering around, preventing the script to work. So this is no
>>> exotic corner case, but happens in real life.
>>>
>>> I observe this since I dist-upgraded to wheezy.
>>>
>>
>> Because Debian is using non-upstream udev rules.
>>
>> With upstream udev rules with standard real-life use, this situation
>> cannot happen - since these rules are constructed to play better with
>> udev WATCH rule.
>
> Hm, does udev play a role on this at all? Without having dived the code, I'd
> assume udev has only to do with creation and deletion of /dev/mapper/...
> and/or /dev/vgname/... devices (upon lvchange -aX), but not with lvm metadata
> manipulation.


Udev attempts to update it device database after any change event
(you could observe its work with udevadm monitor)

So in your case -  you unmount filesystem -> close device -> fires WATCH event 
with some randomly delayed (systemd)udevd scan machism - so in unpredictable 
moment blkid opens device and scans its sectors (keeping device open and 
interfering with deactivate operation). For this short-time opens there is now 
built-in retry which tries to deactivate device several times when it's known 
device is not mounted.

Zdenek

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-06 17:37 [linux-lvm] Missing error handling in lv_snapshot_remove Bastian Blank
2013-08-07  9:13 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2013-08-07 12:36   ` Bastian Blank
2013-08-07 13:32     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2013-08-07 15:13     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2013-08-08 13:33   ` Ritesh Raj Sarraf
2013-08-09  9:50     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2013-08-07  9:22 ` Andreas Pflug
2013-08-07  9:41   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2013-08-07 17:18     ` Andreas Pflug
2013-08-08 10:01       ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2013-08-09  7:57         ` Andreas Pflug
2013-08-09  9:40           ` Zdenek Kabelac

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