From: Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>
To: Jaco Kroon <jaco@uls.co.za>, Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-lvm@lists.linux.dev" <linux-lvm@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: lvm2 deadlock
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:26:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52f4696f-9c03-4fea-b265-97448fbab24d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8627b66a-1774-4828-aae6-e5d31356fe10@uls.co.za>
Dne 07. 06. 24 v 11:03 Jaco Kroon napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> On 2024/06/07 00:17, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>> Dne 07. 06. 24 v 0:14 Zdenek Kabelac napsal(a):
>>> Dne 05. 06. 24 v 10:59 Jaco Kroon napsal(a):
>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>
> I'm guessing your "simple way" is workable for the generic case as well,
> towards that end, is a relatively simple change to the lvm2 tools not perhaps
> to add an syncfs() call to lvcreate *just prior* to freezing? The hard part is
> probably to figure out if the LV is mounted somewhere, and if it is, to open()
> that path in order to have a file-descriptor to pass to syncfs()? Obviously
> if the LV isn't mounted none of this is a concern and we can just proceed.
>
Hi
There is no simple answer here -
a) 'sync' flushes all io for all disk in the system - user can play with tools
like hdparm -F /dev/xxxx - so still everything in range of 'admin's hand'...
b) it's about the definition of the 'snapshot' moment - do you want to take
snapshot as of 'now' or after possibly X minutes where everything has been
flushed and meanwhile new data flown-in ??
c) lvm2 needs some 'multi LV' atomic snapshot support...
d) with thin-pool and out-of-space potential it gets more tricky....
> What would be more interesting is if cluster-lvm is in play and the origin LV
> is active/open on an alternative node? But that's well beyond the scope of
> our requirements (for now).
Clearly in the cluster case user can use multi-node active LV only in the case
there is something that is able to 'manage' this storage - i.g. gfs2. Surely
use of ext4/xfs this way is out of question...
Regards
Zdenek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-07 9:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-30 10:21 lvm2 deadlock Jaco Kroon
2024-05-31 12:34 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2024-06-03 12:56 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-03 19:25 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2024-06-04 8:46 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-04 10:48 ` Roger Heflin
2024-06-04 11:52 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-04 13:30 ` Roger Heflin
2024-06-04 13:46 ` Stuart D Gathman
2024-06-04 14:49 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-04 15:03 ` Roger Heflin
2024-06-04 14:07 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-04 16:07 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2024-06-05 8:59 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-06 22:14 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2024-06-06 22:17 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2024-06-07 9:03 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-06-07 9:26 ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2024-06-07 9:36 ` Jaco Kroon
2024-09-02 5:48 ` Unsubscribe box, listen
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